Cristina has money problems. It won't bring her hapiness.

Should Cristina go to prison?


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D.B. Cooper

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Cristina has money problems. At first the whistleblowers (arrepentidos) were low level drivers and messengers.
But now they are high level functionaries. The whistleblowers are coming out of the woodwork to spill the beans to keep themselves from landing in prison.
Cris says that it's all a "Media Circus" staged by Macri to divert attention from the sluggish economy. Does anybody believe that?
The star of the show is chauffeur Centeno who kept a hand written diary on store bought notebooks as to who was getting what and where.
So even if he decides to commit "suicide" the notebooks will speak volumes for him. As Mike Myers would say "Good work my friend...".
 
Is anyone really surprised by this? We all knew she was a thief - the worst thing is her complete denial as if she had no idea. What a scumbag. I think the botox and make up has infected her brain.
 
Unfortunately, nobody with experience of life in Argentina is surprised by corruption, given its ubiquitousness here.
I don’t doubt that there is some truth in the story that has been whipped into the absurd media frenzy that’s being served up at the moment, just I don’t doubt that Gianfranco Macri, the President’s brother, used the ‘sincerimiento fiscal’ law to launder 35.5 million dollars of so-called ‘black money’, while the cousin of Macri’s cabinet chief, Jaime Peña Braun, laundered himself 6.2 million dollars. The President’s best friend, Nicolás Caputo, trousered himself the tidy sum of 26.5 million dollars. In total, thanks to this handy law that they designed for themselves, 132.5 million dollars appeared from nowhere and into the accounts of the President’s intimate circle.
I don’t doubt the veracity of this evidence of the massive scale of corruption among the Macri elite, and in argentine society generally, mainly because it was never denied - indeed it was implicitly accepted by the President himself at a news conference - and because Jorge Linskens, the AFIP whistle-blower who revealed the story, got sacked as a result his revelations.
Don’t expect to see splashes in Clarín or La Nación under the strapline “La ruta del dinero M” any time soon. Just as elsewhere in Latin America, among the dominant Argentine media, the term ‘corruption’ is defined as: “illegal or anti-ethical financial dealings possibly conducted by people we don’t like”. Ergo, nothing that the fragrant Macri family or other shining pillars of Argentine society do can be defined as corruption and therefore is not news.
The cartel that keeps oligarchical power in place is not just an alliance with the dominant media. The judiciary also have a role; and I don’t just mean the comical ‘Keystone Cops’ episodes like the one we saw this week, of police drilling holes in the wall of an empty apartment in the same building as Cristina Kirchner’s home looking for bags of cash, with the TV cameras invited: look at the multi-million peso ‘bung’ to the Macri family facilitated by a bankruptcy court in cancelling debt accumulated during the company’s ownership by the Macris.
The incompetence that has the country descending into rampant inflation, recession, and rising poverty is also evident in the Cambiemos coalition’s very sloppy attempt to launder its campaign funding; thousands and thousands of desperately poor people, living in villas, digging into their shallow pockets to make cash donations to a political campaign led by one of the country’s wealthiest men. Such belief!
 
Anyone else watching channel 5 news?
Apparently the notebook saga is designed to distract the masses from the nose diving economy and to finally destroy the Ks. Also channel 5 is now claiming that corruption isn't such a big issue for people. The people are more concerned about inflation, loss of income and the insecurity.
 
Unfortunately, nobody with experience of life in Argentina is surprised by corruption, given its ubiquitousness here.
I don’t doubt that there is some truth in the story that has been whipped into the absurd media frenzy that’s being served up at the moment, just I don’t doubt that Gianfranco Macri, the President’s brother, used the ‘sincerimiento fiscal’ law to launder 35.5 million dollars of so-called ‘black money’, while the cousin of Macri’s cabinet chief, Jaime Peña Braun, laundered himself 6.2 million dollars. The President’s best friend, Nicolás Caputo, trousered himself the tidy sum of 26.5 million dollars. In total, thanks to this handy law that they designed for themselves, 132.5 million dollars appeared from nowhere and into the accounts of the President’s intimate circle.
I don’t doubt the veracity of this evidence of the massive scale of corruption among the Macri elite, and in argentine society generally, mainly because it was never denied - indeed it was implicitly accepted by the President himself at a news conference - and because Jorge Linskens, the AFIP whistle-blower who revealed the story, got sacked as a result his revelations.

The issue here is not that the Macri folks had millions outside the country, or even that they benefited from the law and repatriated them (as did thousands of other Argentines and I would rather that money be in the country than outside it). The real issue is if that money was acquired fraudulently. What is the proof of that? If you, or anyone else, has that proof, they need to denounce these folks judicially. I find it hard to believe that if that proof was out there, the Kichneristas would not have already used it to denounce them, but hey, show me the proof and I will believe it. The Ks' (and their most ardent supporters) kept saying that there was no real proof that Nestor and Cristina had been thieves, and now that there is more than enough proof, they still refuse to believe it, or they are downplaying it. While I don't support Macri unconditionally, I do support many of the things he is trying to do (fight drug trafficking, police corruption,mafias within trade unions, and gov't corruption; make gov't more transparent; insert Argentina back into the world; and reorient the economy- even though without success so far). I will not, though, be like those Ks that refuse to see the evidence. If Macri's clan is guilty, don't just put them in jail, but under the jail, where the Ks should be. No one should have any tolerance for corruption, regardless of which side of the political spectrum it comes from.
 
Anyone else watching channel 5 news?
Apparently the notebook saga is designed to distract the masses from the nose diving economy and to finally destroy the Ks. Also channel 5 is now claiming that corruption isn't such a big issue for people. The people are more concerned about inflation, loss of income and the insecurity.

What you may not be aware off is that C5N (Canal 5 Noticias) is owned by Cristobal Lopez. A close ally of the Kichner family. Lopez was sent to prison recently for unpaid taxes in the amount of 8 Billion pesos and possible $$$ laundering. So he is obviously not a friend of the Macri Government. C5N always puts a negative spin on the Macri government.
 
Anyone else watching channel 5 news?
Apparently the notebook saga is designed to distract the masses from the nose diving economy and to finally destroy the Ks. Also channel 5 is now claiming that corruption isn't such a big issue for people. The people are more concerned about inflation, loss of income and the insecurity.

You are being facetious, right?
 
Cristina has money problems. At first the whistleblowers (arrepentidos) were low level drivers and messengers.
But now they are high level functionaries. The whistleblowers are coming out of the woodwork to spill the beans to keep themselves from landing in prison.
Cris says that it's all a "Media Circus" staged by Macri to divert attention from the sluggish economy. Does anybody believe that?
The star of the show is chauffeur Centeno who kept a hand written diary on store bought notebooks as to who was getting what and where.
So even if he decides to commit "suicide" the notebooks will speak volumes for him. As Mike Myers would say "Good work my friend...".

Apparently everybody believes it because the vote intention for her is growing every day.
Even if we imaging for 1 second that it is true, this is peanuts comparing with the corruption scandals of the officialism: narco mayors, fake contributors means that the money for the campaign came from narcos, ceos that run public offices giving their companies ridicoulous advantajes like Aranguren, a President that self forgives 4.5 billion usd, a vice President that is caught by customs with undeclare jewelry (brive), a vice President that instead of a pillow uses garbage bags full of undeclared money. So, yes, this is pure circus.
I have cases with Bonadio and he ignores the evidence and the legal rules.
 
Apparently everybody believes it because the vote intention for her is growing every day.
Even if we imaging for 1 second that it is true, this is peanuts comparing with the corruption scandals of the officialism: narco mayors, fake contributors means that the money for the campaign came from narcos, ceos that run public offices giving their companies ridicoulous advantajes like Aranguren, a President that self forgives 4.5 billion usd, a vice President that is caught by customs with undeclare jewelry (brive), a vice President that instead of a pillow uses garbage bags full of undeclared money. So, yes, this is pure circus.
I have cases with Bonadio and he ignores the evidence and the legal rules.

K corruption = fine and justified after the glorious won decade

Macri corruption = very bad

According to Channel 5 - corruption (in general) is not a major concern for the people. Look! Macri is destroying the economy! There's nothing else to see!
 
Someone was bound to vote No, and it couldn´t have been more predictable. Pathetic.
 
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