Re: These prices are killing me - 2

TatanBsAs

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"Matty" said:
ramon, I get you. The gap between the HAVE and HAVE NOTS is so huge,eventually the dwindling middle class will disappear in Argentina.
Culture (art, paintings, sculpture, music, great architecture, dancing..) is great but last time I checked it cannot really consistently put food on the table, send kids to college, pay the basic daily expenses. So a good musuem in a nice city is always good but a better government project is to permanently address the basic needs of "los cartoneros". Yesterday, I saw a family of 3 girls going over the basura looking for morsels to eat (they found loose stale bread) - in the very same orange with black trash can a young couple tossed their dog's poop about 2 hours prior. Even in the nasty, oozing with sewage in Asia I never saw anything like this.
Prices will continue to rise, sadly. And since there is not much the public can do - complaining has become a "sport". Some are really very good at it than others. Complaining is a better (por gratis) therapy than a pill or a visit to a head shrink.
People will not stop complaining, it is part of human nature; light too bright, not bright enough, food very good, food have no taste, lots of dog droppings, not enough dog droppings, wine is good, wine unlike the quality of those found in Napa Valleys or not Bordeaux enough, etc. etc. I like to listen to people complain, they give their best speeches when they have something to complain about. It is part of life in Argentina, complaining. Embrace it and join in.
The only thing I agree with Ramon is in regard to paying high prices for specific goods. Everything else I do not. Argentina is not a socialist country.
The middle class is actually in a better position that it was a few years ago. What do you think triggered the increase in consumption? It wasn´t the higher classes who triggered this phenomenon. The government´s economic policies tend to favor those who permorm blue collar jobs.
Contrary to what Matty said, the middle class will not dwindle. On the contrary during the last years it has grown.
 

cbphoto

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Thank You TATANBsAs and NIKAD.... you both seem to be the only people with a constructive clue as to what is really going on :)
 

Matty

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Since the original thread here was "forked" from an original (got too long.. per Igor) thread, part of this thread is now so... totally dated. In July 07 until First week of October 07 the price of tomatoes had gone up and down so much in a span of a few weeks that a boycott was called to fight the "sudden increase in tomato prices" but I digress...
I now think that the increase in prices (of everything) is so irrelevant to those who can afford it (foreigner or locals) and to those who cannot afford it, it is their problem. Why should we show concern to those who do not show concern to what matters to us? Equality rules! For those who cannot afford to pay the higher prices now - it is time to take the lumps with the gravy. For those who can afford to pay the increase in prices now and more price increase in the future - you so totally, rock!
No more complaining - I think I will take on that mantra. And to not complain is not care, sounds pretty good to me. These present higher prices stoke me ! Inflation rocks. Inflation in Argentina is so much fun, isn't it?
 

TatanBsAs

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"Matty" said:
Since the original thread here was "forked" from an original (got too long.. per Igor) thread, part of this thread is now so... totally dated. In July 07 until First week of October 07 the price of tomatoes had gone up and down so much in a span of a few weeks that a boycott was called to fight the "sudden increase in tomato prices" but I digress...
I now think that the increase in prices (of everything) is so irrelevant to those who can afford it (foreigner or locals) and to those who cannot afford it, it is their problem. Why should we show concern to those who do not show concern to what matters to us? Equality rules! For those who cannot afford to pay the higher prices now - it is time to take the lumps with the gravy. For those who can afford to pay the increase in prices now and more price increase in the future - you so totally, rock!
No more complaining - I think I will take on that mantra. And to not complain is not care, sounds pretty good to me. These present higher prices stoke me ! Inflation rocks. Inflation in Argentina is so much fun, isn't it?
The other day I went to Jumbo in Palermo and purchased tomatoes. To be honest I am not a veggie lover but I purchased tomatoes for my daughter and learned that the kilo of tomatoes was aproximately 3 pesos. I remember reading about kilos of Tomatoes at 13 or 17 pesos. Consequently, I talked to an agricultural engineer who explained that it did not have anything to do with inflation, but was related to lack of supply, due to the season. "Supply and demand" I suppose.
I thought the price of tomatoes was no longer an issue , but evidently to Matt it is. Is your life really that dull, that you have to complain again about the price of tomatoes?
 

ramon

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Tatan
A question for you , Has the working class achieved wage increases in the last three years equivalent to inflation?
 

TatanBsAs

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"ramon" said:
Tatan
A question for you , Has the working class achieved wage increases in the last three years equivalent to inflation?
Its not a fair question, but I will answer it any way. In some sectors yes and in other no. Let me ask you a question, has the unemployment rate decreased?
 

Matty

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ramon, ask only fair questions. No tricky dicky questions please. Or else you will get wishy-washy, flip-flop responses. You ramon are silly!
The tomato is 3pesos a kilo now, in October 07 when it was TOMATOES, it was 13-14pesos per kilo. Now we are back to tomato so it is back to 3pesos a kilo. Let us just forget the tons and tons of crates of rotten tomatoes that COTO and JUMBO threw out because of the tomato boycott of 07. See how positive this spin doctor can be. No issue there now. Tomato is no longer and issue. Pomodoro on the other hand is another matter.
Everybody got a raise and all is well during this summer season. Even the weather cooperated, not too hot - just pleasantly warm - summerlike almost. Just perfect, right ramon. Forget the high prices - who cares about that. Talk about the nice stuff. Warm, fuzzy stuff.
 

Matty

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cbphoto, see.. that smile was not that bad. Got a nice laugh with that, huh? Try this...Matty's the name and yup, cracks.. my game.
Am just tryin' to be positive y'all.
 
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