Terrorist state Israel assassinates Hamas leader in Dubai

cabrera

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HenryNisental said:
In this country we have a saying:
"EL QUE A HIERRO MATA A HIERRO MUERE"
If you do not understand the meaning of this sentence, ask somebody to translate it for you.
In any case, anybody that makes a living by killing inocent unarmed civilians anywhere in the world (including here in the AMIA builbing), must FORFEIT their right to live.
The place and/or time of their execution may delayed, but they cannot hide in other countries and use them as a shield for their crimes, period.
Saludos Henry
Only a Barbarian would say that and to support Israel in its vicious killings of people is to be a killer yourself. Palestine has had 300 deaths to each Israeli death and still they are considered the bad guy by hypocrites like Henry.
Ghettos like Gaza strip are very similar to the Warsaw ghetto except there is no escape from Gaza making it worse.
 

orwellian

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cabrera said:
Only a Barbarian would say that and to support Israel in its vicious killings of people is to be a killer yourself. Palestine has had 300 deaths to each Israeli death and still they are considered the bad guy by hypocrites like Henry.
Ghettos like Gaza strip are very similar to the Warsaw ghetto except there is no escape from Gaza making it worse.
Oh I thought by killing innocent civilians he meant Israel. I guess I didn't read that properly. Then you are, like Cabrera pointed out, hypocrites as terrorism that is carried out by Israel and the U.S it's justified, but when your enemies do it, it's a crime.

So tell me ZionistHenry and 84BrainCells, if "anybody that makes a living by killing inocent unarmed civilians anywhere in the world must FORFEIT their right to live" is true, then surely every single American president (especially Clinton, Bush and Obama), have to forfeit their lives as well? Shouldn't we hang them all like they did to the Nazis during the Nuremberg trials? Oh yeah I forgot, you are just a bunch of god damn hypocrites.
 

mankyank77

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I don't support the killing of innocent civilians on either side. The fact is both Israel and Hamas have blood on their hands. Moderate elements within Israel and Palestine, who are willing to make concessions and compromise in the interest of peace, are systematically silenced by extremists on both sides.

This is a political game of inches. The most salient point of the Guardian article is that we really have no clue who did this...jumping to conclusions based on what the media says, at this point, yields no clear answers.

Very interesting point in the article about how civil liberties in Dubai will be hardest hit, possibly eroded further as CCTV and surveillance is validated by capturing images of men in bad wigs and Groucho Marx glasses and moustaches.
 

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Yes the passports were forged, funny that, most spies and terrorists function with forged passports. However, my point was made with outlandish conjecture to make my point - you and I really haven't got a clue and we rely on manufactured news at best.

There were many who wanted to see this man dead, not least MI6, CIA, Fatah, I could gone on.... this is still an ongoing investigation, but many people are like mindless sponges, especially it seems when 'sucking up' the underlying theme of most of the news threads pertaining to this matter, which exposes mindless antisemitism.

Irishmen, Irish women - many of these people are ex-sectarian soldiers and contractors for the likes of the CIA, MI6 and Fatah, as are many ex-intelligence specialists from a wide range of agencies paid for by companies that are fronts paid for with taxpayers money!

More outlandish conjecture or have we inadvertently killed a man responsible for stoking the fires in the Middle East and killing thousands of Israelis and Palestinians by paying tax? SOUND outlandish reasoning to avoid paying tax though? Or another spy novel coming on? NOPE done that!!
 

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mankyank77 said:
I don't support the killing of innocent civilians on either side. The fact is both Israel and Hamas have blood on their hands. Moderate elements within Israel and Palestine, who are willing to make concessions and compromise in the interest of peace, are systematically silenced by extremists on both sides.
I agree, I don't support Hamas either but what's interesting is that Israel are responsible for them winning the Palestinian elections. They deliberately stalled the peace process and provoked the Palestinians so Hamas could win the elections. It's an old case of divide and conquer. The Israelis don't want peace, they want and are carrying out ethnic cleansing.

mankyank77 said:
This is a political game of inches. The most salient point of the Guardian article is that we really have no clue who did this...jumping to conclusions based on what the media says, at this point, yields no clear answers.
Not true. What assassin would want to get caught with their face on passport photos all across the world? Surely that would be the end of their career. No these people were working for the Mossad for sure. Or else they would have stayed in the country longer to avoid detection. Also the Mossad have been involved with fake passports too and some of the identities stolen are actual Israeli citizens.
Some argue that it was made to look like it was the Mossad, but I don't buy that either because it would be easy for Israel, or any western intelligence organization in the world, to find these Caucasians.


mankyank77 said:
Very interesting point in the article about how civil liberties in Dubai will be hardest hit, possibly eroded further as CCTV and surveillance is validated by capturing images of men in bad wigs and Groucho Marx glasses and moustaches.
If it wasn't for those Hotel surveillance cameras they most likely would not have found the passport photos of the assassins. It also provided them with information how the operation was carried out. I'd say surveillance cameras are good, at least when the police and government actually are working on our side, like this case in Dubai. Had the hit been carried out in a western country, I am sure the tapes would have disappeared or 'shown nothing'.


MaGRon said:
you and I really haven't got a clue and we rely on manufactured news at best.
No, we rely on the information the Dubai police releases. And our common sense.

MaGRon said:
There were many who wanted to see this man dead, not least MI6, CIA, Fatah, I could gone on.... this is still an ongoing investigation, but many people are like mindless sponges, especially it seems when 'sucking up' the underlying theme of most of the news threads pertaining to this matter, which exposes mindless antisemitism.
Yes but only one organization could have carried it out like they did. And here we go again with the antisemitism label. Whenever Israel is being criticized, just bring out the label. Just shows what a Zionist you are.

MaGRon said:
More outlandish conjecture or have we inadvertently killed a man responsible for stoking the fires in the Middle East and killing thousands of Israelis and Palestinians by paying tax?
No what they have done is committed a terrorist attack against the Palestinian people. If they can justify that then surely they can justify when Israeli officials are murdered by Palestinians
 

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Of course they are - but can they prove it! The Dubai police have a record not too dissimilar to the 'boys' in black or is it navy here in ARG! Orwellian, I do hope that is your true name or you do a great writer and theologian a disservice.
 

MaGRon

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I now love this forum! The 'thought police' are yet to censor me (keeping with the Orwellian theme) I am surprised, this forum is becoming a place where people can share their ideas and politics. Well done moderators your forum is growing as a result, long may it last. Power to the people and all that mush....
 

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MaGRon said:
Of course they are - but can they prove it! The Dubai police have a record not too dissimilar to the 'boys' in black or is it navy here in ARG!
I am not saying it's proven, I am saying it's blatantly obvious. And yes, soon enough they might be able to prove it.
And the Dubai police is probably not the nicest police force out there, but at least they publicize information.

MaGRon said:
Orwellian, I do hope that is your true name or you do a great writer and theologian a disservice.
So exactly how in your opinion would I be doing Orwell a disservice? Please elaborate.
 
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