What's it like in Argentina these days?

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How is Argentina these days? I'm seeing a lot of Argentine talk about shortages, Venezuela style rationing, etc? A normal day in Argentina or serious this time?

Is it still easy to get high quality meat? I'm reading Argentine meat consumption & production are at 100 year lows - does this mean places like Don Julio, La Hormiga, etc are having problems with the menu? Can I go to the mercado central still & get 5 kilos of Argentine Angus?

How is the covid situation? The US embassy says certain places require proof of vaccine for entry to certain businesses - is this still in effect? Is travel within the country via land & airplane the same as it was pre-covid? What covid restrictions are still in effect?

Are there any energy restrictions? I'm reading fuel is being rationed across the country, various restrictions (like foreigners can't buy gas) are in effect - will any of this affect tourists?

From my research, it appears much of Latin America, especially South America, is a completely different place than pre covid & I'm hoping for info proving otherwise for Argentina, any info you can provide would be appreciated, thank you.
 

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How is Argentina these days? I'm seeing a lot of Argentine talk about shortages, Venezuela style rationing, etc? A normal day in Argentina or serious this time?

Is it still easy to get high quality meat? I'm reading Argentine meat consumption & production are at 100 year lows - does this mean places like Don Julio, La Hormiga, etc are having problems with the menu? Can I go to the mercado central still & get 5 kilos of Argentine Angus?

How is the covid situation? The US embassy says certain places require proof of vaccine for entry to certain businesses - is this still in effect? Is travel within the country via land & airplane the same as it was pre-covid? What covid restrictions are still in effect?

Are there any energy restrictions? I'm reading fuel is being rationed across the country, various restrictions (like foreigners can't buy gas) are in effect - will any of this affect tourists?

From my research, it appears much of Latin America, especially South America, is a completely different place than pre covid & I'm hoping for info proving otherwise for Argentina, any info you can provide would be appreciated, thank you.
Information on Argentina depends on which news source you use. My permanent residence is still in the USA but I've been in this country the better part of the last 11 years (and haven't left since Feb, 2019). I follow the situation here and in the states and without responding specifically to your questions can emphatically state if you are in Argentina with adequate financial resources and local friends, all is fine here. I read news excerpts from various outlets, like Bloomberg, NY Times, cnn and often wonder what planet they're on. More importantly, I follow news of the US and find it incredible that the country I grew up in, worked in and still love has turned into a country that's hard to recognize these days.

In my opinion it's best to go to sources you trust rather than believe stories in the news.

Honestly I'm retired and live like a sated aristocrat here but am by no means wealthy. I've found no significant shortages of anything though do admit that on occasion markets here sometimes temporarily run out of certain products. The shortages seem to be in the US (from what I read). On the other hand, here in Argentina prices change as the wind blows. And never go down. Living on US dollars gives those here freedom.

I've rambled enough and leave it to you to find the real stories.
 

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Thanks for your response, traveler. Would you mind telling me what area of Argentina you're in & how the covid restrictions are there? Masks, vaccine passports, etc?
 

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Thanks for your response, traveler. Would you mind telling me what area of Argentina you're in & how the covid restrictions are there? Masks, vaccine passports, etc?
I live in the Villa Ballester of Buenos Aires area where hardly anyone wears a mask anymore except on public transportation. People on buses wear masks and probably these days 95% wear them on trains/subways. I often go to the Hipodrome of Palermo (a casino) where everyone still wears a mask. Covid vaccines are readily available and (if you call a shot that needed to be administered 4 times in a year or so a vaccine) all is fine. They are provided free. I know a few people who caught the virus, all recovered.
 

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Thanks for that info traveler, that sounds fairly restrictive & like in any moment could turn into Peru/Chile (where it's extremely strict), probably best to wait a year or two.
 

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Information on Argentina depends on which news source you use. My permanent residence is still in the USA but I've been in this country the better part of the last 11 years (and haven't left since Feb, 2019). I follow the situation here and in the states and without responding specifically to your questions can emphatically state if you are in Argentina with adequate financial resources and local friends, all is fine here. I read news excerpts from various outlets, like Bloomberg, NY Times, cnn and often wonder what planet they're on. More importantly, I follow news of the US and find it incredible that the country I grew up in, worked in and still love has turned into a country that's hard to recognize these days.

In my opinion it's best to go to sources you trust rather than believe stories in the news.

Honestly I'm retired and live like a sated aristocrat here but am by no means wealthy. I've found no significant shortages of anything though do admit that on occasion markets here sometimes temporarily run out of certain products. The shortages seem to be in the US (from what I read). On the other hand, here in Argentina prices change as the wind blows. And never go down. Living on US dollars gives those here freedom.

I've rambled enough and leave it to you to find the real stories.

This.

The biggest hassle is finding an apartment/house/PH or whatever. That can be like the search for the Holy Grail. If you have a regular income in dollars, you'll be fine aside from the housing issue.
 

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Thanks for that info traveler, that sounds fairly restrictive & like in any moment could turn into Peru/Chile (where it's extremely strict), probably best to wait a year or two.
lol...thought you were referring to the current state of affairs in the US as it seems under the current administration the term banana republic is often used.
 

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Thanks for that info traveler, that sounds fairly restrictive & like in any moment could turn into Peru/Chile (where it's extremely strict), probably best to wait a year or two.
I didn't get that from Traveler's messages. I can state that i haven't worn the rag anywhere at all since March 2021 unless asked in a municipal building doing some sort of tramite. If i hear it from a business owner/employee i walk out, and haven't heard it in several months now.
 

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I didn't get that from Traveler's messages. I can state that i haven't worn the rag anywhere at all since March 2021 unless asked in a municipal building doing some sort of tramite. If i hear it from a business owner/employee i walk out, and haven't heard it in several months now.
Exactly! Some wear masks when driving. Alone. No doubt a few wear a mask when showering. There are always a few.
 

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How is Argentina these days? I'm seeing a lot of Argentine talk about shortages, Venezuela style rationing, etc? A normal day in Argentina or serious this time?

Is it still easy to get high quality meat? I'm reading Argentine meat consumption & production are at 100 year lows - does this mean places like Don Julio, La Hormiga, etc are having problems with the menu? Can I go to the mercado central still & get 5 kilos of Argentine Angus?

How is the covid situation? The US embassy says certain places require proof of vaccine for entry to certain businesses - is this still in effect? Is travel within the country via land & airplane the same as it was pre-covid? What covid restrictions are still in effect?

Are there any energy restrictions? I'm reading fuel is being rationed across the country, various restrictions (like foreigners can't buy gas) are in effect - will any of this affect tourists?

From my research, it appears much of Latin America, especially South America, is a completely different place than pre covid & I'm hoping for info proving otherwise for Argentina, any info you can provide would be appreciated, thank you.

Not that bad yet. I've found the general quality of meat to be inferior to what it used to be. You need to seek it out a bit more. I haven't experienced any problems getting anything like meat though.

Foreigners can't buy gas - This is related to Uruguayans and Paraguayans driving over the border to buy cheaper gas. I think most of the time the gas stations just charge them a higher price if they see foreign plates. The gas is subsidized, so it makes sense.

Covid - generally people don't care anymore as Traveler said outside of public transport you don't need to wear a mask for the most part. I don't think I've ever been asked for proof of vaccine here.
 
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