A bit lost: Applying for a Family reunification visa, Radex application next?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

@Stantucker: I am in the same situation. If the end result is the same, I prefer arranging it already here, even though it might be costlier. That being said: can I assume that if indeed the end result is the same, I can become a tax resident in Argentina, after having followed the Consulate route, and getting a DNI first after arrival in Argentina?

@Ronnie Hotdogs: that migration/DNI process doesn't sound very good. Thanks for warning me in advance.

I wouldn't recommend going the consulate route to be honest, I can maybe understand wanting everything to be settled before you go but really it's fine to have only precaria for a while until everything is approved.

Doing it through the consulate is both much much more expensive and a headache when you get here to get your DNI.

I only did it that way because I had no other choice Argentina's border was closed to all non-resident or non-Argentines due to COVID.

 

[desde_Holanda]

I think we might have a bit of a language problem here. I think the consulate are probably correct: you can not apply if you entered on a tourist visa. But if you are an EU citizen you will have entered visa-exempt which is whole different thing.

Ok. Funny that the Argentine consulate in the Netherlands mention 'tourist visa' then, if it is irrelevant to me....

 

[desde_Holanda]

I wouldn't recommend going the consulate route to be honest, I can maybe understand wanting everything to be settled before you go but really it's fine to have only precaria for a while until everything is approved.

Doing it through the consulate is both much much more expensive and a headache when you get here to get your DNI.

I only did it that way because I had no other choice Argentina's border was closed to all non-resident or non-Argentines due to COVID.

Well, a precaria means I am not able to put a house on my name if I understand it right, I need a DNI.

Can you explain why obtaining a DNI after having used the consulate route is much more difficult?

 

[Quilombo]

Well, a precaria means I am not able to put a house on my name if I understand it right, I need a DNI.

Can you explain why obtaining a DNI after having used the consulate route is much more difficult?

It only takes about 3-4 months to go from Precaria to DNI as the spouse of an Argentine. In the middle of COVID even it only took me 4.5 months

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Thanks for answering Quilombo. To be honest, the Argentine Consulate told me I cannot apply in Argentina if entering on a tourist visa....

This is not true.

 

[MarshallE]

Well, a precaria means I am not able to put a house on my name if I understand it right, I need a DNI.

Can you explain why obtaining a DNI after having used the consulate route is much more difficult?

Foreigners are able to own property in Argentina, even with just a passport and no DNI, you'd need to get a tax ID first but there's no issue. I believe there are some threads posted here of others that have done so.

 

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Well, a precaria means I am not able to put a house on my name if I understand it right, I need a DNI.

Can you explain why obtaining a DNI after having used the consulate route is much more difficult?

Because this is Argentina and no one knows how to navigate their own bureaucracy.
As I said maybe it was because it was the height of COVID but it was literally impossible to obtain the “turno” to get DNI por acto consular.

This included me personally going to migraciones several times to try to work out how to do it. Any my Spanish is good..

 

[Stantucker]

Eight years ago it wasn't a problem, but of course, things could have changed. I know navigating Migraciones in general has gotten much harder. Either the Argentine consulate in Atlanta or Migraciones at the airport (don't remember which) gave us the paperwork we needed to go to and request a DNI. It arrived a few weeks later. But, again, that was in 2016. I would bring this issue up with the Consulate you're dealing with.

 

[rdino]

Well, a precaria means I am not able to put a house on my name if I understand it right, I need a DNI.

Can you explain why obtaining a DNI after having used the consulate route is much more difficult?

Hi @desde_Holanda ,
Any chance you can share on your experience on how it went?
I'm in the same situation as you were, as in thinking of either applying for the family reunification visa here (in Australia) , or try to apply for residency whilst in CABA next time. For our next trip to Argentina (at the end of this year) we will probably plan to stay for there about 8 months.

 

[desde_Holanda]

Hi @desde_Holanda,
Any chance you can share on your experience on how it went?
I'm in the same situation as you were, as in thinking of either applying for the family reunification visa here (in Australia) , or try to apply for residency whilst in CABA next time. For our next trip to Argentina (at the end of this year) we will probably plan to stay for there about 8 months.

Hi @rdino - I haven't really started the process yet, since I haven't sold my property yet in Holland. The only thing I have arranged in the meantime, and that was very simple, is to get a tax ID. I did that when I was in BA last month.

I can't tell ofc if we are in the same situation. My situation:
- married to a Argentine citizen, living in the Netherlands

My goals:
- going to buy a house in Buenos Aires (but only after the sale of my property in Holland). We already arranged a house in BA to buy.
- moving to BA on a permanent basis (apply for residency)
- also becoming a tax resident in BA (only ties left with Holland will be my pension and some bank/investment accounts).
- not going for an Argentine passport (because I will lose my Dutch passport then).

The steps I will take, most likely in this order:
- selling property in Holland
- buying property in BA
- writing myself + wife out of the Netherlands residency register and registrering myself on address in CABA (i.e. emigrate to Argentina)
- apply for permanent visa and DNI (i.e. I will follow the suggestions on this forum and apply when in Argentina)
- get proof of tax residency in Argentina (necessary to stop pension provider to stop witholding tax in the Netherlands).
Any remarks from forum members regarding these steps are welcome.