I will be sorry to see you go, you’ve been an impressive presence on the forum, always knowledgeable and helpful. I think it’s a pity you didn’t manage to get on the property ladder, it brings problems of its own but at least the monthly expenditure is less. Maybe you can buy a site in instalments? Do let us know where you go to in Brazil, Mrs. Pintor wants winter holidays there .Thought I'd share an update for those wondering:
We've had several issues with our apartment since our move, and after going back and forth with the landlord trying to get him to either let us fix things, and discount the cost from the rent, or have him fix it, his response was that he'd rather comp a month's rent and return our deposit if we're willing to move rather than fix things.
Given how much more expensive things have gotten since I originally posted this, and the general pessimistic outlook towards the future, we've decided to take him up on his offer and will be moving to Brazil.
I've also since confirmed with the Federal Police in Brazil that per the Argentine-Brazilian treaty, Brazil for it's part does not make a distinction for naturalized/natural born Argentines, so I'm able to request permanent residency once inside Brazil at the local division branch of the Policia Federal do Brasil, and will be doing so accordingly.
I'll be sharing a list of things I have for sale, basically all sorts of furniture and some electronics like TVs; it's cheaper to buy new things in Brazil than to ship the things we have for anyone who might be wondering.
I love Argentina, but everyday I see more and more short term and long term problems growing on the horizon coupled with the CoL spiraling out of control that leads to believe we're headed towards an adjustment that will make the last year and a half seem like walk in the park, especially as the IMF loans come due and we continue to have net negative reserves/hard currency flow.
As always, I'm hopeful that I will be proved wrong, I want Argentina to succeed, but we all know what the definition of insanity is... Anyways, we have an out, and we're taking it. I hope anyone else who wishes to leave is able to, and that things go well for both those staying and leaving. Things were bad with Alberto, and they're bad now too, and everyone on this forum and in this country deserves better.
No different to Argentina.Brazil has the worst tax system in South America. It taxes you on worldwide income including pensions if you live there from 183 days.
I might look up youtube videos on "scopalimina" and change the word safe to really unsafe.....especially for straight men. BA is super safe to me compared to Medellin.Medellin, Col- Beautiful, safe and cheaper.
Thanks Frank, I appreciate the kind words, we're headed for the Grande Florianopolis area; not looking to stay in an Argentine expat community there, but the relative closeness and positive social/economic/crime indicators make it the most appealing of places in Brazil. As for buying a home, I think the plan is to hopefully qualify for a mortgage in Brazil, and to purchase a 1 bedroom or monoambiente here in CABA since we'll be back frequently given my in laws are all here/friends too.I will be sorry to see you go, you’ve been an impressive presence on the forum, always knowledgeable and helpful. I think it’s a pity you didn’t manage to get on the property ladder, it brings problems of its own but at least the monthly expenditure is less. Maybe you can buy a site in instalments? Do let us know where you go to in Brazil, Mrs. Pintor wants winter holidays there .
We went to visit ahead of moving and ran in to several Argentines while doing so. I asked every one of them (to the chagrin of my husband) if they had any regrets/their thoughts/etc. and the constant refrain was no regrets, no looking back, and wished they had moved earlier. I'm confident we'll encounter problems we didn't have here, but interacting with several Argentines and nobody complaining about the economy was quite refreshing.Brazil seems to have quickly dropped out of the conversation. We have friends that are moving to Florianopolis and are quite excited about it.
We thankfully? don't earn enough that this is a problem, but like all countries, there are several loopholes that can be taken advantage of. Regarding the 5 year requirement, Brazil is another example due to the extra-Mercosur treaty that Argentina and Brazil have, this is the one we'll both be using, even though I've yet to reach the 5 year mark.Brazil has the worst tax system in South America. It taxes you on worldwide income including pensions if you live there from 183 days. Paraguay has a great tax system and easy to get a retirement visa, cheap and fast.... boring as hell but to each his own.
Unless you have been naturalized for over 5 years the Mercosur rules of immigration do not apply to you getting residency in other Mercosur countries (including associated countries of Mercosur). The exception to that 5 year rule is Bolivia...they will take you before 5 years as a Naturalized citizen.
I agree yet Medellin's sex scene is a bit of a thing unto itself. So I am gather. I've not been I get creeped out by all the hot tubs in the airbnb listings.I might look up youtube videos on "scopalimina" and change the word safe to really unsafe.....especially for straight men. BA is super safe to me compared to Medellin.
