Anyone come back from the US in the past week or two?

[ndcj]

I hope BROOKLYN reads this! And I still wonder if getting the Argentine passport would require a police report from the country that issued the passport used for entry.

Here's the procedure for obtaining a passport. Just DNI and birth certificate, marriage certificate and a form for most cases.

http://www.argentina.gov.ar/argenti...frame1=3&tema=8&subtema=156&tramite=1441&ea=3

 

[rjlov]

I had the same problem w/ Delta... I was planning on coming down here for 5 months (and doing a visa run in the middle of my stay), but Delta refused to check me in saying I needed a visa for my extended stay. They said they'd be fined by the ARG govt and I'd be put on a flight right back to the US - at their expense. I ended up having them change my return flight to w/i 90 days - thinking I could fix things while down here. But now I'll have to pay a $250 change fee if I am able to stay the 5 months as planned...

 

[elhombresinnombre]

I had the same problem w/ Delta... I was planning on coming down here for 5 months (and doing a visa run in the middle of my stay), but Delta refused to check me in saying I needed a visa for my extended stay. They said they'd be fined by the ARG govt and I'd be put on a flight right back to the US - at their expense. I ended up having them change my return flight to w/i 90 days - thinking I could fix things while down here. But now I'll have to pay a $250 change fee if I am able to stay the 5 months as planned...

Using the phrase "visa run" makes it sound sub-legal whereas all tourists eligible for an automatic 3-month entry stamp are welcome to stay in Argentina for a total of up to six months provided they renew their entry stamp one way or another. Delta were factually wrong: I wonder if they do this kind of thing deliberately to gain the USD250 extra fee?

 

[Napoleon]

Delta were factually wrong: I wonder if they do this kind of thing deliberately to gain the USD250 extra fee?

It very well could be. The airlines reported record profits this year and there were two main reasons:

1) Baggage fees

2) Fees for changing tickets

That's it. Those two things took the airlines from being in the red to record numbers being in the black. I can understand it makes business sense to charge for both, but LYING so that you can do one or the other is not Kosher.

 

[gouchobob]

I had the same problem w/ Delta... I was planning on coming down here for 5 months (and doing a visa run in the middle of my stay), but Delta refused to check me in saying I needed a visa for my extended stay. They said they'd be fined by the ARG govt and I'd be put on a flight right back to the US - at their expense. I ended up having them change my return flight to w/i 90 days - thinking I could fix things while down here. But now I'll have to pay a $250 change fee if I am able to stay the 5 months as planned...

The airlines only enforces the rules and face heavy fines if they let people on the plane without proper passports and visas. The traveler if deported would be sent back to their country of origin at the airlines expense as well. It has nothing to do with the airlines trying to generate additional fees.

 

[dennisr]

Onward ticket: Buenos Aires to Montevideo (Visa run). SOL Airlines: RT $150.00

 

[Liam3494]

The airlines only enforces the rules and face heavy fines if they let people on the plane without proper passports and visas. The traveler if deported would be sent back to their country of origin at the airlines expense as well. It has nothing to do with the airlines trying to generate additional fees.

There is one thing about ensuring that travellers have the correct visa's and passports, quite another to enforce a non-legal requirement on travellers, the majority of whom will not be getting deported. In reality, how many people, out of the thousands that arrive each day in Buenos Aires via International Air Travel, actually get deported at entry, and are returned to where they have come from. I would suggest very few at all.

There is no legal requirement for entry into Argentina for a traveller to have onward travel arrangements in place, and in any case, it is not for an International Airline to act as an arm of any countries immigration authority, aside from a duty to ensure the traveller has a passport to board the flight, but in truth, thats for the departing countries emigration policy, again, not the airlines.

So, once again, the airlines are NOT enfocing any rules, but their own. And in many cases, simply to ensure that they can ensure they get the return flight from a traveller, hence increasing their income strain. As I say, I would love to see the statistics as to how many arrivees in Argentina are actually refused entry and deported from an International Airline Arrival.

 

[gouchobob]

There is one thing about ensuring that travellers have the correct visa's and passports, quite another to enforce a non-legal requirement on travellers, the majority of whom will not be getting deported. In reality, how many people, out of the thousands that arrive each day in Buenos Aires via International Air Travel, actually get deported at entry, and are returned to where they have come from. I would suggest very few at all.

There is no legal requirement for entry into Argentina for a traveller to have onward travel arrangements in place, and in any case, it is not for an International Airline to act as an arm of any countries immigration authority, aside from a duty to ensure the traveller has a passport to board the flight, but in truth, thats for the departing countries emigration policy, again, not the airlines.

So, once again, the airlines are NOT enfocing any rules, but their own. And in many cases, simply to ensure that they can ensure they get the return flight from a traveller, hence increasing their income strain. As I say, I would love to see the statistics as to how many arrivees in Argentina are actually refused entry and deported from an International Airline Arrival.

This is not exactly correct, the requirements to enter Argentina are in the following link.

http://www.traveldocs.com/ar/er.htm

One of the requirements is a return or travel onward tickets at least for U.S. citizens. In reality I would guess this is not enforced (like most things in Argentina) when people people land at the airport. Depending on your airlines and the employee you encounter on a particular day you may or may not be allowed to board your flight. By legal requirement you shouldn't be allowed on the plane.

Also I don't understand why anybody would buy a one way ticket. There little if any additional cost in purchasing a round trip fare.

As far as being deported I'm sure this happens all the time. If the traveler is allowed on the plane without proper documents the airline would be subject to a fine.

 

[dennisr]

Humorous Post

Have seen more than one traveler left at the gate making the very same argument with the Gate Agent.

Note, on more than one occasion have been asked by Argentine Immigration to see my return itinerary when entering. Try entering the USA on Tourist Visa with an Open Return: Good luck.

There is one thing about ensuring that travellers have the correct visa's and passports, quite another to enforce a non-legal requirement on travellers, the majority of whom will not be getting deported. In reality, how many people, out of the thousands that arrive each day in Buenos Aires via International Air Travel, actually get deported at entry, and are returned to where they have come from. I would suggest very few at all.

There is no legal requirement for entry into Argentina for a traveller to have onward travel arrangements in place, and in any case, it is not for an International Airline to act as an arm of any countries immigration authority, aside from a duty to ensure the traveller has a passport to board the flight, but in truth, thats for the departing countries emigration policy, again, not the airlines.

So, once again, the airlines are NOT enfocing any rules, but their own. And in many cases, simply to ensure that they can ensure they get the return flight from a traveller, hence increasing their income strain. As I say, I would love to see the statistics as to how many arrivees in Argentina are actually refused entry and deported from an International Airline Arrival.

 

[Liam3494]

Just for the record, I have travelled on one way tickets on a regular basis, and to date, have never been queried, either entering Argentina, or the US. And, yes, I have entered the US with both open tickets, and with no return ticket. One of the reasons for travelling on a one way, is uncertainlty of when leaving, or even where to.

I have also left with a different airline, and whilst having an onward ticket, I have never been asked to produce it, or show evidence of such a ticket. Maybe I am just lucky, or maybe, not being a US citizen, we are not scrutinised as much for some reason, I know not the reason.

As has been said many times on here, if you are planning on overstaying the 3/6 month visa, hence the reason why you are coming on a one way ticket, then simply buy the cheapest return ticket out of Argentina you can find before you arrive.