China Loan Argentina 7.5 Billion

It's a great thing! remember how the Argentines in general just love the chinos. B) :rolleyes:

Yes but you like
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And it's none of our business if you prefer getting pinged or getting ponged.
 
If we judge with history, when we where under the UK victorian domination we were a lot much better than under the US. We didnt have coups, dissappeared people, dictatorships for minorities, economically was the best time ever, as Roca said we were "the best jewel of the British crown".

Now we agree those were the best times, when Roca's friends divided the Pampas lands among themselves and the Alvear, Alzaga and Anchorenas traveled to Europe, for months, in large cruise ships with their cows on board to have fresh milk. While the poor immigrants rot in the Conventillos. Whoever protested was deported. A model of inclusion progre.
 
Now we agree those were the best times, when Roca's friends divided the Pampas lands among themselves and the Alvear, Alzaga and Anchorenas traveled to Europe, for months, in large cruise ships with their cows on board to have fresh milk. While the poor immigrants rot in the Conventillos. Whoever protested was deported. A model of inclusion progre.

those days were waaaaaaay better than these ones, people lived in better conditions than today, and if it was immigration thats the confirmation that we were doing better than many other parts. I dont think exclusion was a problem, at least not as it is today, it was a very integrated society, the State and its institutions (i.e. public school, universities, hospitals, etc) worked perfectly fine, they were a model for all Latin America.
 
those days were waaaaaaay better than these ones, people lived in better conditions than today, and if it was immigration thats the confirmation that we were doing better than many other parts. I dont think exclusion was a problem, at least not as it is today, it was a very integrated society, the State and its institutions (i.e. public school, universities, hospitals, etc) worked perfectly fine, they were a model for all Latin America.

Keep dreaming Mati..... :D in 1890 to 1900 in the conventillos among inmigrants; university? hospitals? integrated society :mad: a model? :cool:
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Enough said.
 
Keep dreaming Mati..... :D in 1890 to 1900 in the conventillos among inmigrants; university? hospitals? integrated society :mad: a model? :cool:
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Enough said.

Conventillos better than villas.

Education was as its best ever, the public school did work those days, we re talking of what demographers call "transicion demografica", which means huge infraestructure works in the cities, like agua potable, gas, cloacas, etc, with the result: the extension of life expectancy. It was an integrated society, for example, the public school, since you almost did not have private ones, was an open spot where converged the multimillionaire with the poor. And everything was like that, they were every where, every time, at the same place, social interaction, the relationship with the otherness, they took the same bus, they walk the same street, they lived under the same State (this is the key to understand what Im saying, the role of the state and its investments in infraestructure, education, health, etc) of course less corruption, less invation of the market in peoples lives (you know, the way they dressed, what they ate, no Nike or McDonalds, etc)
 
Conventillos better than villas.

Education was as its best ever, the public school did work those days, we re talking of what demographers call "transicion demografica", which means huge infraestructure works in the cities, like agua potable, gas, cloacas, etc, with the result: the extension of life expectancy. It was an integrated society, for example, the public school, since you almost did not have private ones, was an open spot where converged the multimillionaire with the poor. And everything was like that, they were every where, every time, at the same place, social interaction, the relationship with the otherness, they took the same bus, they walk the same street, they lived under the same State (this is the key to understand what Im saying, the role of the state and its investments in infraestructure, education, health, etc) of course less corruption, less invation of the market in peoples lives (you know, the way they dressed, what they ate, no Nike or McDonalds, etc)

Maybe :rolleyes:
 
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