Compiling list of BA Apartment Rental Resources

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Hi all,

Apartment rental resources are often asked about on the forum. I'm in a place now and not looking, but I thought it might useful for others and perhaps myself in the future to have a list of resources.

The idea behind this thread would be that everyone so inclined lists the sites that they know and any objective commentary on them and rental market in general. Then they are compiled at the end in a new thread, and anytime anyone asks, someone can say, look here! Could be a great help to newbies here...

We might also include a "basics to renting in BA" that explains the tourist rental market compared to the local guarantia two-year lease system, and perhaps how to rent somewhere in between.

In general the idea is to connect people to owner direct resources, like the one's I list below. It's not a forum for plugging or bashing a real estate agency, or telling your horror story, etc. Although, maybe a list of agencies that cater to forums is eventually in order.

So to start it off, I know of:

Craig's List: Of course! Craig is always there for you. Note that local renters don't use Craig's List, so most of the owners posting on it are looking for foreigners for short-term rentals. The prices are slightly high, but the apartments tend to be nice and in sought-after areas.

Soloduenos.com: This is owner-direct renting without a real estate agent. I think prices go down the longer you rent. Some apartments do not require a guarantia.

BAflatmates.com: I don't anything about this one. Just looked at it once.

Note: The "guarantia" system in Argentina, for a formal two-year lease. Is different than the "security deposit" required in many countries. A "guarantia" means that a renter must find a third-party property owner, i.e. not the owner of the place they are renting, to put said third-party owned property up as collateral in case the renter breaks the lease. That's to say, the third party must forfeit their property if the renter can't pay the rent! The third-party is usually a family member, so a "guarantia" is quite difficult for a foreigner to obtain.

I'm not sure I got the whole "guarantia" thing right, but that's how I understand it.

Please add any useful info you may have. Also, if I'm wrong about any of the above, or if anyone disagrees, constructive criticism is welcome!
 
There are a number of threads that deal extensively with this subject:

Here are just a few of the 225 that I found using the terms "apartment" and renting" in the search engine:

Buenos aires apartment rental faq

Rental agencies - are they good? Which one to choose?

Apartment Rental Fees

this long apartment hunt...any suggestions?

apt. q's: are agencies the safest? how long do they take? USDs?

Here's a great post from the "admin" in the thread Renting an apartment in BA :

admin said:
Everybody seems to believe that Buenos Aires is a very inexpensive place. You can open a classifieds section of the Clarin newspaper[/url] and see apartments for rent listed for 400 pesos per month. Is it for real? Well, hold your excitement.
Seller's Market
If you decided to rent, first of all remember that it is a seller's market out there. Salary levels are low and it is very difficult to get a credit to buy a house or an apartment. So, there are a lot of people looking for a place to rent. That makes landlords very demanding. Don't expect that they will give you a lot of room for negotiations.
Landlord/Tenant laws
Laws here are extremely protective to the tenant. There are people who pay rent for the very first month only and do not pay anything after that at all. With a slow judicial system it may take years for landlord to evict a non-paying tenant. And unpaid rent is almost never getting recovered. From what I have heard it comes down to some absolutely bizarre situations. Even if there is no contract, for example, if somebody breaks into an apartment and lives there for some time, it is very difficult to get them out legally. All these makes landlords extremely cautious. This is where the requirement for garantias (see below) comes from. Most of landlords prefer to employ a professional real estate agent to make sure that everything is ok legal wise. It is customary for a tenant to pay to the real estate agent an equivalent of 1 month rent in addition to 1 month security deposit that he pays to the landlord.
Garantias
The biggest problem for a foreigners who want to rent an apartment here is that normally they do not have so called "garantia" and almost always it is absolutely required to have one. Garantia is an official commitment of another home- or apartment owner to be responsible for your debts related to the lease contract. While technically it is not a lien against his property itself, landlord can use legal means to go after the property should he encounter any problems. Naturally, it is very difficult if not impossible to find a person who will agree to give you a garantia and put his property at risk.
Apartments for which garantia is not required are advertised as "s/gtia" (sin garantia). Usually they are located in bad neighborhoods or there is something wrong about them otherwise, so landlord has to offer a special incentive to find somebody to rent it to. If you don't have a garantia, you can offer to pay the rent for several (normally 6) months in advance (pago adelantado). Not every landlord will agree to accept it in exchange for dropping the garantia requirement though.
There are some agencies and individuals offering to buy a garantia from them. The catch is that normally they use the same set of properties or just a single apartment to give garantias to many people. Potential landlord (or real estate agent) can request the city properties registry to confirm ownership of the property that is intended to be used for a garantia. He can also inquire about number of ownership requests that were made during last 6 month. If the number of requests happens to be unusually high, your garantia will be rejected. Now can you go back to the place you bought the garantia from for $300 bucks and they will offer to give you back a $100 just because they are nice. Oh, you don't like it, then just go away (c).
Where to search?
Assuming you are going to stay here for at least 6 month and are trying to find something on the same terms as the locals, you should start from following real estate classifieds:


  • [ ] Clarin[/URL] - the most popular national newspaper
    [ ]La Nacion[/url] - conservative newspaper generally for reach people
    [ ] Segundamano - weekly free advertisement newsletter (free for people who post ads)
There is also a website called Solodueños[/URL] for people who want to rent or send their own apartments without getting a real estate agent involved.
How to read an ad?
These "for rent" listings are heavy on abbreviations. For example it can look like
Recoleta 580 | Alquiler ofrecido | Departamentos | 1amb
1amb +gtos 34m sol a/p ampl div temp pisc mucam 14-18 Guido 1888 8ºP XYZ IMBOBILIARIA 5555-5555
Let's go through some common abbreviations:
Unusual conditions:
s/gtía - sin garantia (no co-signer necessary - rare)
temp - alquiler temporario (available for a short term rent)
amobl - amoblado - furnished
Money:
D, u$d, USD - american dollar. Otherwise it is assumed that the price is in pesos. Even if it has a $ sign in front of it.
What's included:
expens - expensas - condo fee (tennant pays it unless stated otherwise)
+gtos - plus gastos - in addition to expensas tennant has to pay for utilities
t/incl, tdo incluído - todo incluido - everything is included into the price
paq - paquete - the same as "todo incluido", sometimes implies someting extra like maid service
Number of rooms:
amb - ambiente.
Ambiente is not the same as a bedroom. Living room also counts as an ambiente.
1amb - studio apartment, 3amb - 2 br.
Position:
fte - frente - in front
cfrte, cfte - contrafrente - one that does not look to the street
lat - lateral - on the side of the building
pulmon - windows open into a narrow well that goes from the top to the bottom of a building
Condition of property:
a estr - a estrenar - brand new
t/nvo - todo nuevo - everything is new (not necesarily brand new, it may be recycled)
cat, categ - de categoria - upscale luxury building/apt
exc - excelente - excellent
Others:
dño - dueño - apartment is rented by the owner, not the real estate agency
apto/prof, apto profes, a/p - apto professional - can be used as an office
ubic - ubicacion - good location
lum,lumin,luz,t/sol - sunny, luminous
bc - balcon - balcony
ptio - patio - back yard
coc - cocina
bñ, bño - baño
ampl - amplio
pisc - piscina - pool
mucam - mucama - maid service
vig - vigilancia - secured building
V/14-18 - you can see(ver) it from 2 to 6pm
So the ad above should read:
Recoleta 580 pesos | Alquiler ofrecido | Departamentos | 1amb
1 ambiente, plus gastos, superficie 34 metros cuadrados, sol, apto professional, alquiler temporario, piscina, mucama, ver 14-18, calle Guido, altura 1888, departamento 8ºP
or in english:
Recoleta 580 pesos| For rent | Apartments | Studio
studio, condo fee and utilities not included, 34 square meters, sunny, can be used as an office, short term lease possible, pool, maid service, you can see it from 2-8pm, 1888 Guido, apartment 8ºP (8º means eights floor)
Temporary lease
Contracts with a lease period shorter than 2 years are considered temporary contracts. La Nacion classifieds has a separate section for short term rentals. Otherwise listings of this type contain word "temp" (alquiler temporario) or minimum term of lease is explicitly specified (for example, "3mes").
You can call the number and ask whether they will consider to rent the apartment for a short term. Many of them will do agree to do it but expect the rent to be significantly higher.
 
Thanks Steve, I should have searched first!

Wish I could delete that one, but I guess I'll just stick to owner-direct resources:

Craig's List, Soloduenos.com, Clarin, La Nacion, Segundamano.

If anyone knows any others, please list them. Then I'll repost a new thread to live on in history with this info in a concise manner for new arrivals.
 
A while back, when I was researching which agency to rent my apartment out through, I compiled this list of temp rental agencies and resources in BA:

http://www.airbnb.com/
http://argentinaconsultant.com/
http://baflatmate.com/
http://clasificados.lanacion.com.ar
http://justowners.blogspot.com/
http://landinargentina.com/
http://roomorama.com/short-term-rentals/Buenos-Aires
http://www.4rentargentina.com/
http://www.adelsur.com/
http://www.alojargentina.com/
http://www.alsolbaires.com/
http://www.andreasstylebarentals.com
http://www.apartmentsba.com/
http://www.apartmentsche.com/
http://www.argenprop.com
http://www.baapartmentrental.com/
http://www.bahomeandbusiness.com/
http://www.bahomerental.com/
http://www.bahouse.com.ar/
http://www.bairesapartments.com/
http://www.bestrentalsba.com/
http://www.brilliantba.com/inicio.asp
http://www.buenos-aires-apartment.com/
http://www.buenos-aires-argentina-apartments.com/
http://www.buenosairesapartments.com/
http://www.buenosairesapartments.net/
http://www.buenosairesfeelhome.com.ar/
http://www.buenosaireshabitat.com/
http://www.buenosaireshousing.com.ar/
http://www.buenosairesloft.com.ar/
http://www.buenosairesrentals.com.ar/
http://www.buenosairesstay.com/
http://www.buenosairestravelrent.com/
http://www.buenostours.com/buenos-aires-short-term-apartment-rental
http://www.buscainmueble.com/
http://www.bytargentina.com/
http://www.casa34.com/
http://www.clasificados.clarin.com/
http://www.departamentosbue.com/
http://www.giessoprop.com.ar/
http://www.idearental.com/
http://www.inmobusqueda.com.ar
http://www.letsgoargentina.com/
http://www.livinginbaires.com/ing/
http://www.myspaceba.com/
http://www.ojopropiedades.com/
http://www.porteniostylee.com.ar/
http://www.qualityhomesbuenosaires.com/
http://www.rentapartmentbuenosaires.com/
http://www.rentinba.com/
http://www.roomargentina.com/
http://www.sibaires.com/
http://www.soloduenos.com/
http://www.stayba.com/
http://www.stayinbuenosaires.com/
http://www.tucasargentina.com/
http://www.waytobaway.com
http://www.welcome2ba.com/
http://www.yes-apartments.com/
http://www.yourplaceinbaires.com/
 
HeyBA said:
Note: The "guarantia" system in Argentina, for a formal two-year lease. Is different than the "security deposit" required in many countries. A "guarantia" means that a renter must find a third-party property owner, i.e. not the owner of the place they are renting, to put said third-party owned property up as collateral in case the renter breaks the lease. That's to say, the third party must forfeit their property if the renter can't pay the rent! The third-party is usually a family member, so a "guarantia" is quite difficult for a foreigner to obtain.

I'm not sure I got the whole "guarantia" thing right, but that's how I understand it.

About the garantia -- if you are renting inside of Capital you'll in all likelihood need a garantia from Capital -- most rental agencies don't like to take a garantia from a property that is from Provincia for use on a contract in Capital.
 
hi i personally know ralf from ba4uapartments..
highly recommended..
fantastic apartments all in good locations can also organise pick up and delivery back to airport.
reputable and trustworthy.. have a look - the apartments are all super modern and some even have gyms..
http://www.ba4uapartments.com.ar/
 
Is too expensive!!!!
The guarantee that the agent is asking people usually friends or relatives who qualify by offering a guaranteed property if the renter does not pay, not so if you break the contract, in the latter case is not returned the security deposit
It is agreed a minimum period of time to stay in the rentals for less than two years.
In general you have to pay four months rent, that is, a deposit that is returned by the end of the lease if the apartment is in a position, two months of payment for the real estate commission, one for the deposit.
Any questions ask me,
Regards,
 
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