Continuos and/or uninterrpted residency in Argentina regarding citizenship: What's the difference?

ArgentinaVet said:
Foreigner born residents residing in Argentina have no rights to citizenship. Only people born on Argentine soil OR to at least one native born Argentine parent abroad have a right to citizenship. Foreign born residents in Argentina may be granted citizenship at the discretion of the judge (pre Milei decree) and now at the discretion of Migraciones (post Milei decree).
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An argument for just remaining a permanent resident. I don't need a passport, or to vote. And I can come and go as I please.
 
steveinbsas said:
There appears to be some confusion about these expressions regarding the new decree, particularly regarding the use of expressions such as "continuous," "uninterrpted," and "residency."

As a native English speaker who had great English teachers in hivh school (all hired by my dad), I'll take a stab at providing an explaination.

When used in the context of discussing a foreigner's Argentine immigration status over a given period of time, continuous residency means the same as unterrupted residency when applied to the conditions of the temporary residency.
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The residency status is continuous and not interrupted if a foreigner who has temporary residency leaves the country for less than six months during a rolling year. If the foreigner returns within the alloted time frame, the residency can correctly be called continuous.

If the foreigner with temporary residency remains outside of Argentina for more than 183 day of a rolling year, the temporary resident status has been voided interrupted and the foreigner must reapply for temporary residency from scratch. A "renewal" will not be possible.

Before the new decree, it was possible for a foreigner to apply for citizenship without a lawyer if they had.two years of continuous or interrupted legal resident status in Argentina. Anyone who had temporary residency for two years prior to the decree (and still might be able to) could apply for citizenship, even if they had spent a number of months of each of the two years out of the country.

Apparently, the new decree will require a foreigner who applies for citizenship, not just to have two years of continuous "legal residency" in Argentina, but now to actually have two years of continuous (aka uninterrpted) physical presence in the country, without setting foot elsewhere.

In English, the words "continuous" and/or "uninterrpted" have the same meaning when applied to the immigration status of a foreigner in Argentina

In English, the words "continuous and/or "uninterrupted" have the same meaning when applied to the geographical.(aka physical) location of a foreigner in Argentina.

As always, others are welcome to add to or correct anything I've written here. I hope I expressed everything clearly. It's been a little over 57 years since my last English class.
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You are making things unnecessarily confusing for newcomers by steering this discussion off track.
 
Does anyone know with certitude if citizenship applications already in progress before DNU 366 will remain with Ministerio de Justicia or, will they be transferred to Migraciones; which is my existential nightmare.
 
ArgentinaVet said:
Foreigner born residents residing in Argentina have no rights to citizenship. Only people born on Argentine soil OR to at least one native born Argentine parent abroad have a right to citizenship. Foreign born residents in Argentina may be granted citizenship at the discretion of the judge (pre Milei decree) and now at the discretion of Migraciones (post Milei decree).
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This decree is disgusting, unconstitutional, and almost certainly will be revoked when Milei loses the Presidency in 2027.
 
ArgentinaVet said:
Foreigner born residents residing in Argentina have no rights to citizenship. Only people born on Argentine soil OR to at least one native born Argentine parent abroad have a right to citizenship. Foreign born residents in Argentina may be granted citizenship at the discretion of the judge (pre Milei decree) and now at the discretion of Migraciones (post Milei decree).
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Good heavens, are we standing in a court room right now? Is there really a need to highlight such a pedantic semantic? Nobody here is claiming a right to citizenship without judicial consideration. I'm pointing out the ubiquitous phenomenon of argentine residents making short trips to neighboring countries and the absurdity of now being told retroactively that they've inadvertently voided their qualifications for citizenship.
 
daveholman said:
An argument for just remaining a permanent resident. I don't need a passport, or to vote. And I can come and go as I please.
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Can you come and go as you please? Can you go for more than 6 months?
 
LuckyLuke said:
Good heavens, are we standing in a court room right now? Is there really a need to highlight such a pedantic semantic? Nobody here is claiming a right to citizenship without judicial consideration. I'm pointing out the ubiquitous phenomenon of argentine residents making short trips to neighboring countries and the absurdity of now being told retroactively that they've inadvertently voided their qualifications for citizenship.
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The recent, much-discussed (possibly unconstitutional and possibly soon-to-be vetoed by parliament) decree does not void citizenship for Argentine residents who leave the country. It requires non-citizens who aspire to become citizens to not leave the country for two years in order to qualify to apply for citizenship.

The recent, much-discussed (possibly unconstitutional and possibly soon-to-be vetoed by parliament) decree does void permanent residency of Argentine permanent residents who leave the country and do not return for 365 days.
 
LuckyLuke said:
Good heavens, are we standing in a court room right now? Is there really a need to highlight such a pedantic semantic? Nobody here is claiming a right to citizenship without judicial consideration. I'm pointing out the ubiquitous phenomenon of argentine residents making short trips to neighboring countries and the absurdity of now being told retroactively that they've inadvertently voided their qualifications for citizenship.
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That's right. If you didn't already have a citizenship case in progress with the courts, then under the new rules you must have 2 years of uninterrupted presence in the country, with no foreign travel at all, otherwise your naturalization clock resets. And only time with DNI counts, precaria or tourist status doesn't count anymore. For people with a court case in progress it still goes under the old rules which did allow for vacations abroad.
 
daveholman said:
An argument for just remaining a permanent resident. I don't need a passport, or to vote. And I can come and go as I please.
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DNU 366 abolished Federal Citizenship. Now natives are permanent residents. It also abolished permanente residency for foreigners, now they are all precarious.
 
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