M1ke said:As ever, Brooker said it best: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/23/charlie-brooker-ground-zero-mosque
Thanks for re-posting, I missed that one. Good article.
darmanad said:No one seriously questions the implications of the 1st amendment. If there is compliance with local zoning/building codes any religious structure is "legal." The issue is broader than that. It involves the propriety of a mosque (and Cordoba will house a mosque for Muslims only unlike the non-denominational prayer center in the pentagon) so close to the site of the most horrific attack on USA soil by what is almost universally agreed was a cadre of so-called Muslim extremists.
So what you're saying is that the 1st amendment shouldn't apply in certain situations? I can see the changes we can make to it now:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. *
* Unless if you're Muslim and want to assemble less than three blocks to where there has been a terror attack.
And the cultural center will have a prayers room. How is that a mosque?
darmanad said:This is a more incisive question. All Muslims are not culpable for what happened on 9/11, but the supremacist belief system of all Muslims, aka Islam, is responsible for what happened on 9/11.
So using your logic it's safe to say that Christianity is responsible for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, right?
darmanad said:Quran verses 9;29 and 9;50:
9;29:
"Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued;
9;50:
Then when the Sacred Months have passed, then kill the Mushrikun {unbelievers} wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush
Want me to dig up Bible quotes for you? Pretty sure the Christians can do better than that.
darmanad said:Sorry , I do not comprehend this.
See my above attempt to understand your logic.
darmanad said:allegation of racism or bigotry by those opposed to Cordoba are an example of unsupported nonsense.
So tell me, what have you done for the first responders?