Happy Argentina!!

[trennod]

Well still is a good country to live and is understandable that people is happy here, they can study as long as they want for free, anyone can become a profesional, the state take care of the health (not so good care but still if you are willing to make a queue you will get attended eventually), and there are lot of help around. We can discuss if that is good for the economy or the best use of the money or what ever we can blame this sistem to cause, but off course that make people feel a little more free and happy when they know that they don't have to save all their life to have an education or to recive health care in a emergency situation specially if you cannot afford it. That is what i think influence a lot in this indicators.

People are happy, but I find thats generally not because of their country. You are probably in the minority here.

 

[arlean]

I find all of this interesting. Actually women from Islamic countries are not necessarily unhappy. My brother-in-law from that part of the world was visited by his sister. She was delightful, told us many stories of how life is over there. We assumed that she would be anxious to get out, one of our friends offered to marry her (in name only, just help her come to the US). She wouldn't consider it. She said in her country the woman is queen in her home. She had an arranged marriage but she was not obligated. In fact, she didn't marry that man, but did marry another--of her parents' choice of course. She was a high-level CPA. Her attitude was nothing like I expected. Plus I was pretty impressed with her. So it isn't necessarily as people think. We need to be careful if we are being hyped or "brainwashed."

Plus some of the happiest people I have ever seen are in the Dominican Republic--with little evident to be happy over. Of course there are always people in every country who live in horrible circumstances--including the U.S.

But this thing of happiness is a mystery. I think to a degree it is just we are a happy person or we are not. Uruguay is an example of people who are generally not happy. One Uruguayan man, when I commented about it to him, laughed and said, "It's just our culture, we are just like that. We are a 'gray' people."

 

[LostinBA]

Exactly. That is why thousands of the "happy people" from the third world cross the mediterranean towards the "unhappy" north every day.

Maybe they're so happy that they want to share their happiness with those to the north!

 

[lamarque]

There are very few argentines going out from their country so what are you talking about?, even when a big part of the population can make a second nationality and go to europe and live there, there are more european living in argentina than argentines living in europe, the first country that the spanish emigrate to is argentina and second is france, so i don't see that if we have the posibility to go to the first world we would take it, on the opposite i see lot of european arriving. I'm perfectly able to live in europe, i have second nationality as almost all my friend has, and more than to do a year experience no one of us want to leave the country, we can talk bad about economy, we can even say that we would leave the country if things don't improve, but at the end very few go away from argentina and the mayority that leave feel nostalgy and at the end come back.
Even when lot of the people here have the posibility to legally live as a resident in europe almost none of them chose to leave the country.
I feel better here than in europe, of course i love to travel and know country but i don't think on any other country that i would chose to live more than Argentina, well who knows, i still don't know all the country in the world but for the moment i already have been in unite state of america and almost all the countrys of europe and still chose this country to live, as lot of you do.
Argentines are pesimist when they talk about progress in this country but is more a country that recive inmigrant than a productor of emigrant.

 

[trennod]

There are very few argentines going out from their country so what are you talking about?, even when a big part of the population can make a second nationality and go to europe and live there, there are more european living in argentina than argentines living in europe, the first country that the spanish emigrate to is argentina and second is france, so i don't see that if we have the posibility to go to the first world we would take it, on the opposite i see lot of european arriving. I'm perfectly able to live in europe, i have second nationality as almost all my friend has, and more than to do a year experience no one of us want to leave the country, we can talk bad about economy, we can even say that we would leave the country if things don't improve, but at the end very few go away from argentina and the mayority that leave feel nostalgy and at the end come back.
Even when lot of the people here have the posibility to legally live as a resident in europe almost none of them chose to leave the country.
I feel better here than in europe, of course i love to travel and know country but i don't think on any other country that i would chose to live more than Argentina, well who knows, i still don't know all the country in the world but for the moment i already have been in unite state of america and almost all the countrys of europe and still chose this country to live, as lot of you do.
Argentines are pesimist when they talk about progress in this country but is more a country that recive inmigrant than a productor of emigrant.

I dont know, there are a lot of argentines that go and never come back. Every time I meet a new one, they wonder what the hell I am doing here. Most of my expat friends get the same response.

I think for those that can leave / move elsewhere, the thing that ties them here the most is family, given the importance and closeness of families. Albeit, that is not true with all. I am not sure it is the greatness of the country that keeps people here / brings them back.

Dont get me wrong, I like Argentina, my girlfriend is Argentine, I have made some good Argentine friends and those I am near I think are fantastic people. But having travelled the world and lived in several different countries, given I have a choice between here and a first world country for my long term future, Argentina would not be the selection.

 

[lamarque]

I dont know, there are a lot of argentines that go and never come back. Every time I meet a new one, they wonder what the hell I am doing here. Most of my expat friends get the same response.

I think for those that can leave / move elsewhere, the thing that ties them here the most is family, given the importance and closeness of families. Albeit, that is not true with all. I am not sure it is the greatness of the country that keeps people here / brings them back.

Dont get me wrong, I like Argentina, my girlfriend is Argentine, I have made some good Argentine friends and those I am near I think are fantastic people. But having travelled the world and lived in several different countries, given I have a choice between here and a first world country for my long term future, Argentina would not be the selection.

That depend on you in any case, if you are educated and creative i would say that you have a much better future in a country that there is still lot to do, than in a country of the firts world, of course is my point of view all depend if you want to be an employ or you want to do something by your self. And depend on if you like it or not, argentine has never been a country were people emigrate, has always been a country were people inmigrate to, even when a big part of the population is able to do a second nationality to live 100% legal in europe and with the same rights as any european in europe, the family is the same for every one but there are countrys where people emigrate anyway like mexico or bolivia, paraguay, and a long etc and they have to live as ilegal so something make the argentines stay in the country and lot of people come to live here don't you agree? in any case i cannot tell you what but is the whole thing that make me stay here dosn't matter how bad the government is and how easy would be for me to just live as a italian citizen in any country of europe.
Crisis come and go, economics booms to. Is a cicle here, you adapt with the time

 

[YanquiGallego]

lamarque is correct, argentines are resistant and are known to be passively tolerant of the negative elements plaguing the country like having horrible, record-low customer service, history of some of the worst political corruption in the world, and hyper inflation and are more comfortable ¨riding the tsunami¨ than making a move, even if they hold an Italian passport. Its a pride that is very admirable, similar to the orchestra playing their musical instruments until the minute the Titanic sank into the water.