How to renew a pensioner's residency visa via Radex / Renaper

[RichardAlem]

Hello everyone. Currently, and in all likelihood, my one year residency visa as a pensioner will expire prior to a judge adjudicating my request for citizenship. So, trying to renew my DNI online via Radex and Renaper, this is the closest point to which I arrived regarding renewing it.

DNI para extranjeros en el país

Si naciste en el exterior, la forma de obtener tu DNI varía en función de que tengas o no la residencia argentina.

www.argentina.gob.ar

But alas, as usual with Migraciones, things are not as they seem and it appears that the instructions contained are for a new application; not a renewal. In the context of constant change regarding Argentino regulations, and rather than running around Migraciones' office at Antártida, or visiting Renaper sucursales, I would like to know if anyone here has recently renewed their pensioner's one year residency visa online and by what meanss.

Digging further, I found this process:

DNI exprés

Tramitalo en uno de los [Centro de Documentación Renaper](https://www.argentina.gob.ar/interior/dni/centros-de-atencion-renaper) habilitados para esta modalidad o en un [Registro Civil](https://www.argentina.gob.ar/interior/renaper/registros-civiles-provinciales). Recibilo (*) por correo en tu...

www.argentina.gob.ar

Can anyone please advise if there is a simple online renewal process. I was told immediately post-Covid that I could simply renew my existing, expired DNI but upon arriving that was not the case and I had to start the entire process from the start; a process I will do all I can to avoid again.

Thanks.

 

[CTMetsFan]

I met with my lawyer yesterday as my one year residence permit expires soon and was disappointed/surprised to hear that I would need to obtain newly apostilled documents for everything that had supported the original application, except for the criminal background check (as we haven’t left Argentina in the year. Apparently I am going to have to impose on a relative in the States to do this for me, or go back myself. Good grief.

 

[Alby]

Hello everyone. Currently, and in all likelihood, my one year residency visa as a pensioner will expire prior to a judge adjudicating my request for citizenship. So, trying to renew my DNI online via Radex and Renaper, this is the closest point to which I arrived regarding renewing it.

DNI para extranjeros en el país

Si naciste en el exterior, la forma de obtener tu DNI varía en función de que tengas o no la residencia argentina.

www.argentina.gob.ar

But alas, as usual with Migraciones, things are not as they seem and it appears that the instructions contained are for a new application; not a renewal. In the context of constant change regarding Argentino regulations, and rather than running around Migraciones' office at Antártida, or visiting Renaper sucursales, I would like to know if anyone here has recently renewed their pensioner's one year residency visa online and by what meanss.

Digging further, I found this process:

DNI exprés

Tramitalo en uno de los [Centro de Documentación Renaper](https://www.argentina.gob.ar/interior/dni/centros-de-atencion-renaper) habilitados para esta modalidad o en un [Registro Civil](https://www.argentina.gob.ar/interior/renaper/registros-civiles-provinciales). Recibilo (*) por correo en tu...

www.argentina.gob.ar

Can anyone please advise if there is a simple online renewal process. I was told immediately post-Covid that I could simply renew my existing, expired DNI but upon arriving that was not the case and I had to start the entire process from the start; a process I will do all I can to avoid again.

Thanks.

Unfortunately, it has been as CTMets sets out above. There is no online process. I've just been through the pensionista renewal for the second time: each year the same documents (except the antecedentes penales), obtained in hard copy, apostilled by the home country authority, brought in physically, translated, delivered to Migraciones.

We'll have to wait and see what the DNUsays about the rules going forward. See separate thread this morning on changes coming to migration rules.

 

[RichardAlem]

I met with my lawyer yesterday as my one year residence permit expires soon and was disappointed/surprised to hear that I would need to obtain newly apostilled documents for everything that had supported the original application, except for the criminal background check (as we haven’t left Argentina in the year. Apparently I am going to have to impose on a relative in the States to do this for me, or go back myself. Good grief.

CTMets & Alby,

Thanks for getting back to me. That is disheartening information because last week I was assured by the Renaper office at the corner of Bullrich and Libertador that I could renew my DNI there in September. Now whether or not renewing the DNI confers another year of residency I do not know. Probably not.

By the end of this month, I should receive notice from the Ministerio de Justicia regarding my solicitation for citizenship since last Monday my documents were submitted, reviewed and accepted. My fervent hope is that I will receive citizenship prior to having to deal anew with Migraciones.

And today comes another significant kink in the chain with this decree by Javier Milei regarding a crackdown on immigration:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922656679864262945

Clearly, this is designed to stop the influx of bordering countries' immigrants abusing the healthcare system, at least. But we could all get swept up in the trámite vortex. I do it myself but will hire an attorney if I must start from scratch, despite not having left the country for +2 years in order to meet the citizenship requirement. Also, I hope that Milei's decree is not retroactive; rather that it commences as of today 14th May 25. I'll read it thoroughly when I have time.

I'll pass on any relevant information.

 

[Alby]

I think you will find the renewal of the temporary residency is the pre-requisite for the DNI. It certainly has always been for me.

And yes, we will all be nervously waiting the detail in the DNU.

 

[RichardAlem]

Alby, your information is always solid and I respect your opinion. Thanks.

Tomorrow we'll ask a reputable immigration attorney, and family friend, if I must again submit all of the initial paperwork, less a local police report, to renew the one year residency visa. Because not having exited the country for two years, nothing has changed.

If there is a way to avoid that administrative redundancy I will pass on the information.

 

[Stephano]

Alby, your information is always solid and I respect your opinion. Thanks.

Tomorrow we'll ask a reputable immigration attorney, and family friend, if I must again submit all of the initial paperwork, less a local police report, to renew the one year residency visa. Because not having exited the country for two years, nothing has changed.

If there is a way to avoid that administrative redundancy I will pass on the information.

Please post here what your immigration lawyer says.
I contacted mine, as I need to renew my residency soon, and he told me that he still needs to read the text of the DNU, but from what he has gathered so far we should be good when renewing.

 

[RichardAlem]

Please post here what your immigration lawyer says.
I contacted mine, as I need to renew my residency soon, and he told me that he still needs to read the text of the DNU, but from what he has gathered so far we should be good when renewing.

Yesterday, I received a response from Migraciones regarding the renewal of my one-year pensioner's visa. They said that it can all be accomplished online. Here is their response verbatim: "Te agradecemos por ponerte en contacto por esta vía y esperamos que la respuesta a tu consulta te sea de utilidad. Si te encontrás dentro de la Argentina deberás iniciar el trámite de radicación en línea a través del Sistema de Radicación a Distancia Ra.D.Ex: http://www.migraciones.gov.ar/radex/inicio-pasos.html PASO 1: CARGA DE DATOS PERSONALES Y PAGO DE TASAS PASO 2: INCORPORACIÓN AL SISTEMA DE LA DOCUMENTACIÓN Y ENVÍO DEL PRE TRÁMITE A MIGRACIONES Podés consultar los requisitos ingresando en: Residencia Temporaria: https://www.argentina.gob.ar/interior/migraciones/radicaciones-mercosur-residencia-temporaria No respondas a este mensaje ya que el remitente es una casilla automática. En caso de tuvieras una nueva inquietud o consulta no dudes en escribirnos a nuestro Canal Único de Contacto y te contestaremos a la brevedad." So, as I see it, everything is processed through Radex whilst the specific documents required are listed on the second URL which is the Argentina.gob.ar website. (Step 1.) Indicate service desired such as pensioner's visa (Step 2.) Pay the fee (Step 3.) Submit documents (Step 4.) Standby for the inevitable eedback such as your documents need to apostilled, legalized, translated.... In my experience, across 31 years, it is never pleasant dealing with Migraciones and so I will pay an attorney to handle what at first glance seems to be simple; but in reality is not. To me anyway.

 

[Stephano]

Yesterday, I received a response from Migraciones regarding the renewal of my one-year pensioner's visa. They said that it can all be accomplished online. Here is their response verbatim: "Te agradecemos por ponerte en contacto por esta vía y esperamos que la respuesta a tu consulta te sea de utilidad. Si te encontrás dentro de la Argentina deberás iniciar el trámite de radicación en línea a través del Sistema de Radicación a Distancia Ra.D.Ex: http://www.migraciones.gov.ar/radex/inicio-pasos.html PASO 1: CARGA DE DATOS PERSONALES Y PAGO DE TASAS PASO 2: INCORPORACIÓN AL SISTEMA DE LA DOCUMENTACIÓN Y ENVÍO DEL PRE TRÁMITE A MIGRACIONES Podés consultar los requisitos ingresando en: Residencia Temporaria: https://www.argentina.gob.ar/interior/migraciones/radicaciones-mercosur-residencia-temporaria No respondas a este mensaje ya que el remitente es una casilla automática. En caso de tuvieras una nueva inquietud o consulta no dudes en escribirnos a nuestro Canal Único de Contacto y te contestaremos a la brevedad." So, as I see it, everything is processed through Radex whilst the specific documents required are listed on the second URL which is the Argentina.gob.ar website. (Step 1.) Indicate service desired such as pensioner's visa (Step 2.) Pay the fee (Step 3.) Submit documents (Step 4.) Standby for the inevitable eedback such as your documents need to apostilled, legalized, translated.... In my experience, across 31 years, it is never pleasant dealing with Migraciones and so I will pay an attorney to handle what at first glance seems to be simple; but in reality is not. To me anyway.

That was my conclusion too. I hired a lawyer to navigate through the intricacies of the process and I never regret it.
Now I am at my first renewal and hopefully this new DNU won't throw a wrench in the process.

 

[Alby]

Yes, there is an online element to it. But, ultimately, you have to attend an appointment at Migraciones, deliver the hard copy apostilled originals and their official translations, have your fingerprints retaken and a new photo taken for your eventual new DNI. The same process as last year. Indeed, you will even get a new precaria issued to tide you over until they assess your docs and approve the new temporary pensionista residency (even though your current temporary residency has not yet run out).

Yesterday, I received a response from Migraciones regarding the renewal of my one-year pensioner's visa. They said that it can all be accomplished online. Here is their response verbatim: "Te agradecemos por ponerte en contacto por esta vía y esperamos que la respuesta a tu consulta te sea de utilidad. Si te encontrás dentro de la Argentina deberás iniciar el trámite de radicación en línea a través del Sistema de Radicación a Distancia Ra.D.Ex: http://www.migraciones.gov.ar/radex/inicio-pasos.html PASO 1: CARGA DE DATOS PERSONALES Y PAGO DE TASAS PASO 2: INCORPORACIÓN AL SISTEMA DE LA DOCUMENTACIÓN Y ENVÍO DEL PRE TRÁMITE A MIGRACIONES Podés consultar los requisitos ingresando en: Residencia Temporaria: https://www.argentina.gob.ar/interior/migraciones/radicaciones-mercosur-residencia-temporaria No respondas a este mensaje ya que el remitente es una casilla automática. En caso de tuvieras una nueva inquietud o consulta no dudes en escribirnos a nuestro Canal Único de Contacto y te contestaremos a la brevedad." So, as I see it, everything is processed through Radex whilst the specific documents required are listed on the second URL which is the Argentina.gob.ar website. (Step 1.) Indicate service desired such as pensioner's visa (Step 2.) Pay the fee (Step 3.) Submit documents (Step 4.) Standby for the inevitable eedback such as your documents need to apostilled, legalized, translated.... In my experience, across 31 years, it is never pleasant dealing with Migraciones and so I will pay an attorney to handle what at first glance seems to be simple; but in reality is not. To me anyway.