ICE killed US citizen in Minneapolis

[LongtimeExpat]

We are talking about US citizens of Venezuelan origin being deported and you’re sending an article about illegal Venezuelans who were sheltering under the asylum umbrella. There are no US citizens deported. Please process before you extend your opinion.

No. You said Trump can't do things that are against the law. I showed you that he can, and the law only responds after it's too late. Nothing more or less than that.

 

[Lanick]

No. You said Trump can't do things that are against the law. I showed you that he can, and the law only responds after it's too late. Nothing more or less than that.

Where did you show me that? Your article says illegal entry Venezuelans sent to El Salvador. We are talking about law abiding citizens being stripped of their citizenship. That is not the case at all. And he is doing great job deporting criminals.

 

[LongtimeExpat]

Where did you show me that? Your article says illegal entry Venezuelans sent to El Salvador. We are talking about law abiding citizens being stripped of their citizenship. That is not the case at all. And he is doing great job deporting criminals.

You said this:

I’m sure he would do it at a heartbeat but he can not! He would but can not because of the law!

Message number 17 in this thread.
That statement of yours is the one I responded to, where you say that Trump would like to do something but he can't, because of the law.

And I merely pointed out to you that Trump has done a lot of things that the law does not allow. Some have been stopped, but not before irreversible consequences. Some are waiting in the courts. Like most of the tariffs. And while they wait in the courts, Trump's orders, many illegal, remain in force.

Or did you intend to say that Trump can only not do that one specific illegal thing -- stripping people of citizenship -- because of the law? If so, please explain how that works. Maybe I'm wrong, or I understand badly.

 

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Think you should all go back to debating the merits or otherwise of sandwich de miga.

 

[Vossos]

Dual citizens who engage in criminal acts are stripped off their citizenships. Like in the UK. It’s a great thing. No law abiding citizens are stripped off their citizenships like I said in my previous post.

Who is deciding what is a criminal act or who is law abiding?

 

[DotConnector]

Who is deciding what is a criminal act or who is law abiding?

That’s kinda silly question?
Say you steal from a bank and get caught. You have dual citizenship and one citizenship is taken away due to improper behavior.
Law abiding is pretty much self explanatory! Don’t get in trouble with the law and u cool!

 

[Vossos]

That’s kinda silly question?
Say you steal from a bank and get caught. You have dual citizenship and one citizenship is taken away due to improper behavior.
Law abiding is pretty much self explanatory! Don’t get in trouble with the law and u cool!

In an ideal world that’d be true however the US is currently run by a convicted felon with a dubious and an unchallenged, or meekly if so, regard for law.

Once you have unscrupulous criminals or those able to interpret the law without any kind of checks and balances you get some really horrible circumstances.

I myself have been physically attacked by those employed by the state solely for my nationality so perhaps it hits a bit closer to home.

In such a situatuon, what’s your advice? Not holding my nationality?

 

[DotConnector]

In an ideal world that’d be true however the US is currently run by a convicted felon with a dubious and an unchallenged, or meekly if so, regard for law.

Once you have unscrupulous criminals or those able to interpret the law without any kind of checks and balances you get some really horrible circumstances.

I myself have been physically attacked by those employed by the state solely for my nationality so perhaps it hits a bit closer to home.

In such a situatuon, what’s your advice? Not holding my nationality?

I don’t think I understand your question.
Courts of law determine if you brake the law or not.
ICE only determines if you brake legal residency laws but even there you are taken to a court of law to present your case then a decision is made to deport you or not.

 

[Lanick]

Who is deciding what is a criminal act or who is law abiding?

Post office or in some states Kool Aid vendors!

 

[Lanick]

You said this:

Message number 17 in this thread.
That statement of yours is the one I responded to, where you say that Trump would like to do something but he can't, because of the law.

And I merely pointed out to you that Trump has done a lot of things that the law does not allow. Some have been stopped, but not before irreversible consequences. Some are waiting in the courts. Like most of the tariffs. And while they wait in the courts, Trump's orders, many illegal, remain in force.

Or did you intend to say that Trump can only not do that one specific illegal thing -- stripping people of citizenship -- because of the law? If so, please explain how that works. Maybe I'm wrong, or I understand badly.

I am intending to say; he can do things but the justice system will and did overturn if they’re not lawful. And the original post claimed that the Venezuelans will be stripped off their citizenships and I said this is not possible! To prove me wrong some of you come up with irrelevant examples and accusations and Kool aid.