is there a way to get citizenship faster than having to wait 2 years with perm residency?

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im married to an argentina and have had residency for over a year now. i fear world war, more so than ever, and do not want to get drafted (US citizen, 30 yo male). this is actually one of the primary reasons i moved to argentina in 2022, when the russian ukraine war broke out, i saw the writing on the wall. i really want to get my citizenship going so i can get passport and other protections that come with being a citizen ASAP.
is there anything i can do, or do i have to wait until i've been a resident for 2 years to even start anything ?
 
Too late for you now, you could have applied for citizenship a year ago as soon as you got married, probably would have had it approved by now. With the new DNU from Milei (issued May 2025) the only qualification is 2 years of residence with DNI in hand si o si. I'll mention that having a permanent residence DNI is not necessary, 2 years of temp residence is sufficient for citizenship by naturalization (under the old rules no residence period was required for those married to an Argentine or having an Argentine baby)
 
i tried but the retards working at the judge office in cordoba said i needed to get my permanent residency first si o si before i started my citizneship. they were wrong but i didnt care enough to argue or get a lawyer, i figured no rush.. then milei changed it up by the time my DNI came in
 
i tried but the retards working at the judge office in cordoba said i needed to get my permanent residency first si o si before i started my citizneship. they were wrong but i didnt care enough to argue or get a lawyer, i figured no rush.. then milei changed it up by the time my DNI came in
Yes in some provinces they required you to have a DNI, others allowed with just a precaria, in CABA it was possible with only your foreign passport to start the case, you didn't even need to have applied for residency yet
 
...i fear world war, more so than ever, and do not want to get drafted (US citizen, 30 yo male). this is actually one of the primary reasons i moved to argentina in 2022, when the russian ukraine war broke out, i saw the writing on the wall. i really want to get my citizenship going so i can get passport and other protections that come with being a citizen ASAP.

I'm not sure if having Argentine citizenship would automically exempt you from being drafted in the US, but it would probably prevent you being deported to the US in that case.

That being said, based on your age, I don't think that you have anything to worry about.

Even if the military draft is reinstated, they will begin drafting by age and 20 year olds will go first (in the order they recieve in a lottery based on their birthday).

If and when all of the 20 year olds have been drafted, they will do the same for the 21 year olds and then the 22 year olds and so on.

The war (if not the world) will be over long before they ever get to you.

This is what Google AI had to say:

"...the United States does not currently have an active military draft, and no one has been drafted since 1973. The military is an all-volunteer force, but men aged 18–25 must register with the Selective Service System. Automatic registration for males is set to begin in December 2026, based on the FY2026.

Key Details on the U.S. Draft System:
Registration Still Required: Almost all male U.S. citizens and residents (including undocumented immigrants) aged 18–25 must register with the Selective Service.
Automatic Registration (2026): Starting December 18, 2026, the registration process will become automatic using other federal databases, replacing the need for individuals to register themselves, according to a provision in the Fiscal Year 2026 National Defense Authorization Act.

Reinstating the Draft: For a draft to be reinstated, Congress and the President would have to pass legislation authorizing it.
Who Would Be Drafted: If activated, a lottery based on birthdays and ages (starting with 20-year-olds) would be used."

At the age of 19, when I was a sophomore at ISU, I was subject the first military draft in the autumn of 1969. I got a high enough number (229) to go to the Draft Board in my home town and dropped my student deferment on December 29th, so I was eligible for the draft for one day in 1969.

The local draft board had already fulfilled their cuota for 1969 and were nowhere close to my number.

Although that meant I was 1-A and subject to being drafted, until 1973, all of those who were in the 1970 draft pool and all of those in the 1969 draft pool would have been called up before me.

To this day, I feel gratitude for the woman who told my mom how the system worked and how I could drastically reduce the odds of being drafted. That woman was actually in charge of the local draft board and her son and I had both been in the same Sunday School class since the age of four.
 
Too late for you now, you could have applied for citizenship a year ago as soon as you got married, probably would have had it approved by now. With the new DNU from Milei (issued May 2025) the only qualification is 2 years of residence with DNI in hand si o si. I'll mention that having a permanent residence DNI is not necessary, 2 years of temp residence is sufficient for citizenship by naturalization (under the old rules no residence period was required for those married to an Argentine or having an Argentine baby)

Are you sure about this? Most sources on this say otherwise. I believe with the new law, the requirement for citizenship application is now specifically "2 years of permanent residency." Not just "2 years of residency," as it used to be.

We have temp residency from having a baby here, but the path to citizenship is much longer than before, so we've decided not to bother. We were eligible to apply for like 9 months before the law changed, but a series of events and some complacency on our end made us fumble the opportunity. Oh well.
 
Are you sure about this? Most sources on this say otherwise. I believe with the new law, the requirement for citizenship application is now specifically "2 years of permanent residency." Not just "2 years of residency," as it used to be.

We have temp residency from having a baby here, but the path to citizenship is much longer than before, so we've decided not to bother. We were eligible to apply for like 9 months before the law changed, but a series of events and some complacency on our end made us fumble the opportunity. Oh well.


I asked Google AI the following:

Is 2 years a permanent residency required for citizenship in Argentina or only two years of physical presence with temporary residency?

And recieved this reply:

You do not need permanent residency to apply for Argentine citizenship. A valid temporary residence permit is sufficient, provided you meet the time and physical presence requirements.

The citizenship requirements include:
Two Years of Legal Residence: You must prove you have lived in Argentina with continuous, legal residency (either temporary or permanent) for two years prior to your application.

Continuous Physical Presence: Recent immigration reforms dictate that you must maintain continuous and uninterrupted physical presence in Argentina for those two years. You are expected to be in the country without making departures abroad during this timeframe.

Judicial Process: Citizenship by naturalization is handled by the federal judicial system, rather than the National Directorate of Migration (DNM), and can be applied for as soon as your two-year criteria are met.

You can review the full naturalization guidelines on the Refrom of the Argentine Citizenship Regime by Naturalization overview or consult the Argentina Residency: Complete Guide for Foreigners 2026 to understand the independent residency and citizenship pathways."

The answer did not indicate that migraciones now has the power to grant citizenship to foreigners, so at least that much of the reply was inaccurate or incomplete (based on Bajocero_2's posts that it's still possible to apply for citizenship at a Federal Court using a lawyer). He also indicated that he can submit the application for citizenship at a Federal Court immediately after the foreigner arrives in Argentina and the process will take at least three years.

I don't think that there have been any posts recently that migraciones has actually started processing applications for citizenship.
 
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I asked Google AI the following:

Is 2 years a permanent residency required for citizenship in Argentina or only two years of physical presence with temporary residency?

And recieved this reply:

You do not need permanent residency to apply for Argentine citizenship. A valid temporary residence permit is sufficient, provided you meet the time and physical presence requirements.

The citizenship requirements include:
Two Years of Legal Residence: You must prove you have lived in Argentina with continuous, legal residency (either temporary or permanent) for two years prior to your application.

Continuous Physical Presence: Recent immigration reforms dictate that you must maintain continuous and uninterrupted physical presence in Argentina for those two years. You are expected to be in the country without making departures abroad during this timeframe.

Judicial Process: Citizenship by naturalization is handled by the federal judicial system, rather than the National Directorate of Migration (DNM), and can be applied for as soon as your two-year criteria are met.

You can review the full naturalization guidelines on the Refrom of the Argentine Citizenship Regime by Naturalization overview or consult the Argentina Residency: Complete Guide for Foreigners 2026 to understand the independent residency and citizenship pathways."

The answer did not indicate that migraciones now has the power to grant citizenship to foreigners, so at least that much of the reply was inaccurate or incomplete (based on Bajocero_2's posts that it's still possible to apply for citizenship at a Federal Court using a lawyer). He also indicated that he can submit the application for citizenship at a Federal Court immediately after the foreigner arrives in Argentina and the process will take at least three years.

I don't think that there have been any posts recently that migraciones has actually started processing applications for citizenship.

Most AI-generated information about Argentina are largely outdated or just inaccurate.

Also, the whole applying for citizenship using the old law, by suing to claim the new DNU is unconstitutional is a dead end. Someone even posted a recent case where a Russian national went that route in court and the case was thrown out, with the ruling being that the claim holds no merit.

There was no response to that thread, but it's this one:

 
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@steveinbsas - do you fact-check the Google AI answers that you post or are the answers you offer strictly on a caveat emptor basis? I think AI is fine as an assistant where the human is the expert and can be expected to spot inconsistencies but not so hot if it is to be relied on as the expert itself.

For example, Google AI thinks that I used to play drums with the sixties beat group "The Zombies." Remember "Time of the Season"? "She's not There"? It's very flattering of Google AI to tell me this but it's simply not true. Not only have I never been able to play drums but to the best of my knowledge, no person named Elhombresinnombre has ever performed on any instrument with The Zombies. Needless to say, when I checked that out, I didn't use Google AI to get my answers.
 
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