Moving to Argentina

[steveinbsas]

We have been presented with the opportunity to possibly relocate to Argentina as a family of 5. Myself,my husband and our 3 children (6,4 and 1).

I should probably also state "No hablamos Espanol",basic phrases and words but certainly not a grasp on the language. Would it be tough for us? I've heard English isn't commonly spoken but I'm guessing the big cities more so.

I think it could be quite difficult for you, especially if and when Dad is too ill to go to work and/or Mom is too sick to care for any of the children, who could also need medical attention at the same time.

Not having the ability to commuicate clearly with a doctor in these or similar circumstances could actually have disastrous consequences.

Guessing/hoping that the doctor will speak English may put a child's health at risk, especially if the parent doesn't understand the diagnosis, can't question the recommended treatment, or ask for a second opinion.

 

[Caribbean Cool]

I think it could be quite difficult for you, especially if and when Dad is too ill to go to work and/or Mom is too sick to care for any of the children, who could also need medical attention at the same time.

Not having the ability to commuicate clearly with a doctor in these or similar circumstances could actually have disastrous consequences.

Guessing/hoping that the doctor will speak English may put a child's health at risk, especially if the parent doesn't understand the diagnosis, can't question the recommended treatment, or ask for a second opinion.

Could have exaggerated the problem....the hospitals have staff that speak English...to help...and yes the best hospitals have doctors who do not speak English

 

[Caribbean Cool]

As the title reads,we have an offer to move to Argentina but aren't sure of things. We'd be coming over for work purposes.

Hi everyone,

We have been presented with the opportunity to possibly relocate to Argentina as a family of 5. Myself,my husband and our 3 children (6,4 and 1). We have tried doing our own research but there appears to be a lot of conflicting information about which makes it hard to know for certain.

I guess my question is what would be a livable wage? Realistically what would we have to take home each month after taxes to live a comfortable life - We assume we'll be paying 1000-1500 USD a month on rent (4 bedroom house). Then there's transport, groceries and basic essentials each month with some entertainment too.

I should probably also state "No hablamos Espanol",basic phrases and words but certainly not a grasp on the language. Would it be tough for us? I've heard English isn't commonly spoken but I'm guessing the big cities more so.

Any useful information/advice you can provide would be greatly appreciated

I personally would be surprised if you found a four bedroom anything for $1500. Your food bill will be at least $1000 unless your family eats grass. If you don't earn at least $3000 a month...again at least....better make it $4000. Dinner for the parents in a restaurant is $40 minimum.....and that is a lean meal. Even McDonalds will floor you with the prices. A decent burger and fries and coke wiil cost $15 at a restaurant. A cooked chicken at the supermarket is now $15 at Disco. Tuna the quality of Starkist or Bumble Bee is $4.00 a can. WTF? A cooked chicken in Las Canatas is $20 bucks.

 

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I'd say very roughly you can follow the "acomodado" metric at the offical rate which says you needed 5.2m pesos a month back in November.
There's been roughly 4% inflation a month since then which puts the value at $6,000,000 pesos = $6000USD a month.

https://www.lanacion.com.ar/economi...2024/#:~:text=641.,$5,2 millones en noviembre.

Of course you can live on less, but upping sticks to move the family somewhere and doing it all to not enjoy a better standard of living from doing so is asking for trouble....

Also you should be asking for support in relocation with the company paying for your stuff to be sent here, someone to help you with the paperwork, finding a house, bank accounts and getting registered for DNI etc etc etc.

 

[steveinbsas]

Could have exaggerated the problem....the hospitals have staff that speak English...to help...and yes the best hospitals have doctors who do not speak English

It would be interesting to know if prepaid medical coverage is included as part of the compensation of the employmemt and if there is any choice regarding the provider.

If there is no choice, perhaps members covered by the same provider (if Candz can be specific regarding which one) will share information about their ability to commuicate with the doctorswith whom they consulted.

Once enrolled in a plan in 2006, I never "shopped for a doc" who spoke English. I just went to the central office of Medicus to make appointments to cosult with their doctors.

 

[steveinbsas]

Depending on where you choose to live you may or may not need to have a car...

It will not be possible to obtain an Argentine driver's licence without being able to take the written exam which, as far as I know, is only available in Spanish and Argentine insurance will not pay claims unless the driver has an Argentine driver's licence.

Getting the licence itself requires more red tape now than ever:

How to get your Driver's License in CABA. (Step-by-step guide)

So, I've jumped through the hoops to get my license in Capital, and I have a pretty simple step-by-step for how to make it happen with a minimum of hassle. This is written from a US perspective, so your mileage may vary if you're starting from another country. Step 1: Gather your documents. If...

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[Redpossum]

I'm going to go against the consensus of opinion here, and simply say that my advice is-

Don't do it. Just don't. Argentina is in a very bad way right now, and if there is another collapse like El Corralito, there will be a whole lot of truly desperate people, and a wave of crime and lawlessness like you probably can't imagine. Especially with 3 small children, I solemnly counsel you not to come here now. I will probably be sternly chastised for saying this, but such is my sincere opinion. Stay where you can speak the language fluently.

 

[carride]

> You can’t live just anywhere you like in BsAs with kids

I'd be interested in seeing this elaborated. I'm in a building at Scalabrini Ortiz in the middle of Palermo and the building is full of kids; babies and toddlers mostly.

I agree. Why are people advising to move to the suburbs outside of a great urban city? There are many families who live in nice buildings and nice neighborhoods. City life is easier to begin when only understanding English, and there are better options to eventually learn the language.

 

[Lanick]

I'm going to go against the consensus of opinion here, and simply say that my advice is-

Don't do it. Just don't. Argentina is in a very bad way right now, and if there is another collapse like El Corralito, there will be a whole lot of truly desperate people, and a wave of crime and lawlessness like you probably can't imagine. Especially with 3 small children, I solemnly counsel you not to come here now. I will probably be sternly chastised for saying this, but such is my sincere opinion. Stay where you can speak the language fluently.

I’d agree with you if they were planning to move and try Argentina but if they’re being transferred here and it’s a corporate thing and the company picks up the bill as well as compensating extra for leaving home country then why not? I know a lot of inter company transfer people and they don’t even pick up the tissue off the floor. But if it’s like a local company offered a job and they don’t offer any support financially then it’s not ideal. You have to be offered at least 7-8k a month to make it with 3 kids. Otherwise no!

 

[Lanick]

I agree. Why are people advising to move to the suburbs outside of a great urban city? There are many families who live in nice buildings and nice neighborhoods. City life is easier to begin when only understanding English, and there are better options to eventually learn the language.

How can you say “why are people advising ….”? Everyone got their own opinion and entitled to it. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. Just sharing an opinion. But contrary to what you say; it’s not a great urban city at the moment. It was and hopefully it will be one again. It’s an unsafe and unorganised city where you can’t wear jewellery. Whereas Nordelta with its extreme security and very well organised system and facilities can offer great convenience to an expat family with 3 young kids. Also; there are way a lot more people in Nordelta who can speak English than in CABA. Almost everyone.