Permanent Residency from marriage. Has it expired?

[syndicateofnoise]

I’m a new member here and hope to help where I can but had a question if anyone knows. I received a permanent residency and a DNI in 2006 after marrying my Argentinian wife in Argentina but we have since split up. We lived in the US and I haven’t been back to Argentina since 2008.

I’m thinking of finally moving to Argentina but I wasn’t sure if my Permanent Residency was still valid, and if it has somehow expired if it’s easy enough to renew or if I had to go through the whole process again.

Theres also the issue of travel, which would be easier for me to do being a permanent resident during COVID times (in case I had to travel to update anything in person)

Thanks so much in advance!

 

[another]

it's long gone. you have to spend at least one day every two years in argentina to maintain a perm residency

 

[bdk1]

Has the expiration date on your DNI passed? If not, even though as they say above your residency has expired, in practice you can still use your DNI and most of the times no one will check whether you were out of the country or not. My ex was in the exact same situation as you (spent over 2 years outside of Argentina) and moved back there with the same DNI. He also used/uses that DNI to open bank accounts, do all his paperwork, and go back to Argentina during covid in a repatriation flight organized by the consulate. No one ever checked a thing.

I have 3 different "valid" DNIs with addresses in 3 different countries (they don't keep the old one when you change your address and get a new DNI) and use them interchangeably based on which address is more convenient. I have never come across anyone actually checking which DNI is the most up-to-date one through the barcode (I'm guessing that's what it's there for). They just want to see a physical non-expired DNI, even for government paperwork.

 

[another]

he said 2006, so it's cutting pretty close to 15 years, and by the time arg opens it might be past...they never check anything inside arg, but i'd think the migraciones data base does get updated once in a blue moon...Do you know for sure that your ex presented a DNI in EZE or just came with a foreign passport and got the 90 days stamp? If the gentleman comes back and stays in arg for longer than 90 days and then wants to travel abroad, it might be an issue?

 

[sergio]

I wonder if Immigration will be more flexible given Covid-19.

 

[bdk1]

he said 2006, so it's cutting pretty close to 15 years, and by the time arg opens it might be past...they never check anything inside arg, but i'd think the migraciones data base does get updated once in a blue moon...Do you know for sure that your ex presented a DNI in EZE or just came with a foreign passport and got the 90 days stamp? If the gentleman comes back and stays in arg for longer than 90 days and then wants to travel abroad, it might be an issue?

He presented his DNI in EZE. That said, it had been 3 years, not 15. So you're right that the immigration database might be up-to-date in the OP's case.

 

[syndicateofnoise]

I have the permanent residency on a paper which states (translated):
Grant permanent residence in the country, as of the date hereof, to the foreigner whose details are detailed below.

It looks like the DNI hasn’t expired yet (based on the issuance date). Do you think Migraciones would let me in if I traveled there?

I may end up chatting with an immigration specialist in-country unless it ends up being a lost cause.

 

[syndicateofnoise]

Has the expiration date on your DNI passed? If not, even though as they say above your residency has expired, in practice you can still use your DNI and most of the times no one will check whether you were out of the country or not. My ex was in the exact same situation as you (spent over 2 years outside of Argentina) and moved back there with the same DNI. He also used/uses that DNI to open bank accounts, do all his paperwork, and go back to Argentina during covid in a repatriation flight organized by the consulate. No one ever checked a thing.

I have 3 different "valid" DNIs with addresses in 3 different countries (they don't keep the old one when you change your address and get a new DNI) and use them interchangeably based on which address is more convenient. I have never come across anyone actually checking which DNI is the most up-to-date one through the barcode (I'm guessing that's what it's there for). They just want to see a physical non-expired DNI, even for government paperwork.

You mentioned your ex was on a repatriation flight organized by the consulate. Did he have to do that to make sure they would let him in the country during a COVID times? I would hate to get there and get sent back without being let in.

 

[another]

I have the permanent residency on a paper which states (translated):
Grant permanent residence in the country, as of the date hereof, to the foreigner whose details are detailed below.

I don’t see an expiration on the DNI. Do you think Migraciones would let me in if I traveled there?

I may end up chatting with an immigration specialist in-country unless it ends up being a lost cause.

the expiration date is on the back of the DNI card. The DNI was changed to a new format some years ago, between 2010 and 2015, so if you even have one, it's outdated. There is 0 chance chatting with any 'specialist' will give you any definitive answer and even a lesser chance that whatever the specialist told you is what will happen in reality on the day you arrive. 99% of it depends on the luck of who processes your entry in Ezeiza. Why are you in such a hurry to move to Argentina NOW? Instead of taking chances of being turned away at the check in trying to border a flight, or worse yet, being deported upon arriving to EZE, why don't you save yourself the grief and wait till they allow tourists in?

 

[Bajo_cero2]

the expiration date is on the back of the DNI card. The DNI was changed to a new format some years ago, between 2010 and 2015, so if you even have one, it's outdated. There is 0 chance chatting with any 'specialist' will give you any definitive answer and even a lesser chance that whatever the specialist told you is what will happen in reality on the day you arrive. 99% of it depends on the luck of who processes your entry in Ezeiza. Why are you in such a hurry to move to Argentina NOW? Instead of taking chances of being turned away at the check in trying to border a flight, or worse yet, being deported upon arriving to EZE, why don't you save yourself the grief and wait till they allow tourists in?

I’m a new member here and hope to help where I can but had a question if anyone knows. I received a permanent residency and a DNI in 2006 after marrying my Argentinian wife in Argentina but we have since split up. We lived in the US and I haven’t been back to Argentina since 2008.

I’m thinking of finally moving to Argentina but I wasn’t sure if my Permanent Residency was still valid, and if it has somehow expired if it’s easy enough to renew or if I had to go through the whole process again.

Theres also the issue of travel, which would be easier for me to do being a permanent resident during COVID times (in case I had to travel to update anything in person)

Thanks so much in advance!

I suggest to file an habeas corpus in advance in order to fly with Court order that allows you to re enter.
Argentina follows the roman manumission system where it is not allowed to freed for lapsus of time because there is not slavery where to send you back, so, deadlines are considered to be not writen.