Questions about reentry after paying HDS

[georgesayns]

Hello,
I'm aware a lot of threads have been made over the years regarding this specific topic, however, with the new laws and whatnot, I feel like I might have a higher chance of being refused entry at the border.

I came to Argentina on a tourist visa which I overstayed (by about 1 year). I left Argentina about 4 months ago, and (if everything goes to plan) I'm going back on thursday.
Basically I would like to know if migraciones are going to be stricter with me (for instance, will they be more likely to suspect a border run if my return flight is to, say, Brazil instead of my home country), especially since the new laws have been passed (do they actually ask for proof of insurance now and if so, how often?)

Another thing I'm wondering is whether I should lie regarding the purpose of my visit (I'm traveling to be with my girlfriend who is argentinian): I know it's bad practice to talk of renewing one's visa and the like, but I'm curious about whether or not I should minimize my ties to the country (I'm even considering speaking broken spanish on purpose). Because I guess on the other hand, being able to prove you have a place to stay and know people in the country could be a plus, couldn't it?

(Both interactions I have had with migraciones have been fairly negative, hence the numerous and maybe overly specific questions. Will post an update on thursday anyway, in case someone else is in a similar situation someday)

Thanks in advance!

 

[georgesayns]

Forgot to post the update.

Handed the migraciones official my habilitacion de salida along with my passport. He didn't seem to care too much. Didn't ask if I had health insurance. He asked where I was going to stay but didn't ask for proof. Asked me if I had a return flight but I'm not sure he would have asked for proof (I had it at hand anyway and showed it to him). Did not ask for proof of means. Told me not to overstay again and that's about it.

All in all, the process was actually much swifter and less stressful than my first time coming to Argentina (that was through Ezeiza though, yesterday I came in through AEP).

Another thing I forgot to mention in the original post is that I actually exited the country without paying the habilitacion de salida first, I just paid it online like a week ago. I was somewhat worried that (as many posts here and on reddit seemed to imply) this would result in being unofficially banned from entering the country. So either that's a myth, or they've changed the way they do things, or I got very lucky.

 

[bamark]

I came to Argentina on a tourist visa which I overstayed (by about 1 year). I left Argentina about 4 months ago, and (if everything goes to plan) I'm going back on thursday.

I will be re-entering under the same context as this. Would you advise having anything prepped before I go - print outs / folder of docs ready to show? Coming into EZE also, not AEP.

 

[francus211]

I do think this goes to show that a lot of the fear-mongering over the new laws is just that - fear-mongering. Maybe things will be different if you're a citizen of particular countries (for example, I know a few Mexican citizens who are perma-tourists here and who have had some run-ins with immigration, but even they have ultimately been allowed to exit/re-enter the country numerous times) but in general it seems like the chances of being banned from Argentina or even just denied entry are pretty low. It definitely seems like a lot of this supposed "crackdown" is more about targeting people who are attempting to migrate permanently to Argentina (and use the country's resources) than perma-tourists.

 

[steveinbsas]

It definitely seems like a lot of this supposed "crackdown" is more about targeting people who are attempting to migrate permanently to Argentina (and use the country's resources) than perma-tourists.

How would I define a "perma-tourist?'

After almost twenty years of pondering this question, the best definition l've ever been able to find is, "people who are attempting to migrate permanently to Argentina and use the country's resources."

Thanks ever so much for helping me find the elusive answer at last.

 

[francus211]

After almost twenty years of pondering this question, the best definition l've ever been able to find is, "people who are attempting to migrate permanently to Argentina and use the country's resources."

I mostly agree, though I would say that the definition "people who are attempting to migrate permanently to Argentina and use the country's resources" applies generally to migrants of all kinds.

In my mind, a perma-tourist can be distinguished from a regular migrant as "someone who leverages their status as a tourist to remain long-term in a country while avoiding the process of formally obtaining residency for that country".

 

[laud]

I will be re-entering under the same context as this. Would you advise having anything prepped before I go - print outs / folder of docs ready to show? Coming into EZE also, not AEP.

Hi, I'm wondering whether you re-entered yet, and how it went through EZE?

 

[bamark]

Hi, I'm wondering whether you re-entered yet, and how it went through EZE?

Yes I re-entered with no problems. Just have everything prepared in a google drive or on paper.

- Airbnb Booking or address of where you're staying
- Bank Statement for proof of sufficient funds
- Return Flight - Onward Travel proof within 90 days of arrival
- Travel Insurance
- Exit Receipt from overstaying last time
- Flight to BA you came on

I was asked in this order - was i coming here as a tourist = yes. What flight i came on and the flight number = show boarding pass. How long I’m staying = give the date within 90 days. Where I’m staying = show airbnb booking with the address. I had the date I'm leaving + date of accomodation booking lined up to be on same date.

The whole thing took 30 seconds and I wasn't even asked about the overstay. Feel like it also matters who you get on the day.