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Docentes, alumnos e investigadores piden la renuncia de Sabrina Ajmechet a Unicaba

La precandidata a diputada nacional de Juntos por el Cambio sigue sumando repudios por sus expresiones. El gobierno de Rodríguez Larreta deberá decidir si la sostiene como secretaria de Investigación y Desarrollo de la universidad de formación docente porteña.

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She didn't just touch that third rail, she grabbed it with both hands and stuck her tongue on it when she said, "la creencia en que las Malvinas son argentinas es irracional, es sentimental".

Sabrina Ajmechet intentó aclarar sus dichos sobre Malvinas pero no dijo nada sobre su justificación de La Noche los Lápices

La precandidata a diputada nacional de Juntos por el Cambio había afirmado que "la creencia en que las Malvinas son argentinas es irracional, es sentimental". Dirigentes de su mismo espacio, como María Eugenia Vidal, se diferenciaron de su postura.

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That's right, she said, "The belief that the Malvinas belong to Argentina is irrational, it's sentimental."

That's it, she's doomed. Her political future is donkey caca.

 

[sts7049]

she has some cajones, saying that publicly

 

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I think there’s a lot of people who’ll agree.
It doesn’t mean that it will change their opinion.
Argentinians are very irrational and sentimental!

 

[BAHibs]

In general I don't like the practice of going through almost a decade of someone's social media to find something to hold against them because you would be hard pressed to find someone who hasn't published BS at one point or another (Let him who is without sin cast the first stone etc), but given the situation and history surrounding Las Malvinas I see no way back for her.

 

[Redpossum]

Well, there are some very practical reasons for Argentina to want the Malvinas, reasons involving UNCLOS. If, hypothetically speaking, Argentina were to somehow recover them, the fact that they are on the continental shelf would allow Argentina to greatly expand the EEZ it can claim.

If you add in South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Argentina could theoretically dominate a chunk of the South Atlantic. But, of course, "theoretically" is the operative word here. In practice, Argentina cannot even patrol the EEZ it has now, which leads to gross abuse of the "Mile 201" trick by vast fleets of foreign fishing craft from many countries. China and Spain are the worst offenders, but many other countries also do it. And the estimated* value of just the squid which is illegally taken within Argentina's EEZ is over 1 billion US dollars per year.


*No, that estimate doesn't come from Argentina.

Here is a good look at the issue, with map

 

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Well, there are some very practical reasons for Argentina to want the Malvinas, reasons involving UNCLOS. If, hypothetically speaking, Argentina were to somehow recover them, the fact that they are on the continental shelf would allow Argentina to greatly expand the EEZ it can claim.

If you add in South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Argentina could theoretically dominate a chunk of the South Atlantic. But, of course, "theoretically" is the operative word here. In practice, Argentina cannot even patrol the EEZ it has now, which leads to gross abuse of the "Mile 201" trick by vast fleets of foreign fishing craft from many countries. China and Spain are the worst offenders, but many other countries also do it. And the estimated* value of just the squid which is illegally taken within Argentina's EEZ is over 1 billion US dollars per year.


*No, that estimate doesn't come from Argentina.

Here is a good look at the issue, with map

Unfortunately starting a war was the absolutely worst possible thing they could have done.
It turns the Falkland Islands debate also into something irrational and sentimental in the British consciousness. British blood was spilt to defend them so it is going to be politically impossible for the foreseeable future that any government will negotiate with Argentina over their sovereignty.
Had the war of 1982 never happened I could imagine that things would be very different.

 

[Redpossum]

Unfortunately starting a war was the absolutely worst possible thing they could have done.
It turns the Falkland Islands debate also into something irrational and sentimental in the British consciousness. British blood was spilt to defend them so it is going to be politically impossible for the foreseeable future that any government will negotiate with Argentina over their sovereignty.
Had the war of 1982 never happened I could imagine that things would be very different.

On the one hand, I totally agree that it was incredibly dumb, but that was the dictatorship.

On the other hand, no British blood has been shed over Gibraltar in the last 200 years, yet the UK government seems quite stubbornly intransigent on that subject, as well. And the UK bases on Cyprus aren't currently a hot button issue, but if and when the Turk makes them an issue, I do strongly suspect that Her Majesty's government will be quite reluctant to give those up, as well.

On the gripping hand, the UK gave up Malta without much of a fuss at all, so who knows?

Perhaps it is all about the sentiments of the locals. The Kelpers and Gibraltareans both seem quite determined to retain their UK affiliation.

 

[antipodean]

Perhaps it is all about the sentiments of the locals. The Kelpers and Gibraltareans both seem quite determined to retain their UK affiliation.

It is exactly this for most BOTs like Cayman (vis-a-vis Jamaican independence and todays tiny but growing independence movement), Bermuda (referendum of 1995), Anguilla (vis-a-vis referendum to leaving St Kitts and become a BOT), Falklands (2009 referendum with 99.8% in favor or remaining as a BOT) Gibraltar (referendums of 1967 and 2002) etc. If the inhabitants decide to be independent or join with another entity or even share sovereignty with another entity, they can and will.

But who is going to voluntarily sign up to be part of Argentina if today they enjoy the 5th highest GDP PPP (per capita) in the world, 1% unemployment, pounds, a high HDI rating, low corruption, stable government, and inflation of 1.4%? In fact are some fringes in Mendoza not currently talking about leaving Argentina because they are so disillusioned by it? If Argentina ever gets its own house in order, maybe it can finally make the kelpers an interesting proposal worth listening to rather than depending on violence or glorification of violence to get what it wants.

 

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

The Falklands Islanders should let as many Argentines visit as possible. They would soon realise that it is indeed an irrational and sentimental desire. It’s as desolate a spot as you could imagine.

 

[Redpossum]

It is exactly this for most BOTs like Cayman (vis-a-vis Jamaican independence and todays tiny but growing independence movement), Bermuda (referendum of 1995), Anguilla (vis-a-vis referendum to leaving St Kitts and become a BOT), Falklands (2009 referendum with 99.8% in favor or remaining as a BOT) Gibraltar (referendums of 1967 and 2002) etc. If the inhabitants decide to be independent or join with another entity or even share sovereignty with another entity, they can and will.

It's funny about referendums. Nobody seriously questions the results of the Falvinas plebiscite. But when you mention the 95% of Crimeans who voted for unification with Russia, many will insist it was fraudulent. And yet if you look at Ukraine, it's arguably much worse than Argentina. The Ukrops economy is even more hosed than ours, and here we don't have a smoldering civil war or private battalions of heavily-armed neo-nazis. The extent to which people are programmed by media propaganda is truly amazing.

But who is going to voluntarily sign up to be part of Argentina if today they enjoy the 5th highest GDP PPP (per capita) in the world, 1% unemployment, pounds, a high HDI rating, low corruption, stable government, and inflation of 1.4%? In fact are some fringes in Mendoza not currently talking about leaving Argentina because they are so disillusioned by it? If Argentina ever gets its own house in order, maybe it can finally make the kelpers an interesting proposal worth listening to rather than depending on violence or glorification of violence to get what it wants.

Oh, come on now! Can't you imagine living on those desolate islands, looking at exciting Buenos Aires with legions of hot girls and warm, sunny weather, not to mention great asado, and thinking to yourself, "DAMN, I wish we could get some of that action! Leave behind these boring old pounds sterling, and use that thrillingly dynamic* peso Argentino...ahh, life would be so much better! And that Cristina Kirchner lady is sure a lot more appealing than stodgy old Bojo the Clown..."


*(i.e. insanely volatile)