Seeking some advice...

[kche]

Hello! I have been a member of this site for almost a year now, and I am in a funky transitional phase between 75/25 time in US vs. time in AR.

My partner lives in Bariloche and we are wanting me to spend more like 40/60 US/AR time for us to be together. I work for a humble, non-profit outdoor education company in the US; point being- even by US standards I am being paid below the poverty line every year (with little expenses mind you, as I spend most of my time leading wilderness trips).

Here is what we want:

Enough dollars to buy a small tract of land: mas o menos 40,000 US$

With a small, but comfortable timber frame/strawbale house:

approx. 300,000 US$

I make about 12,000/ year in the US!!!!!!!!!!! EEK! How can I even dream to make money in Argentina?

So, my advice seeking is more around how have YOU made ends met in Argentina? How did YOU meet this new culture and create opportunity for yourself?

I do recognize this is a relatively nebulas question, being that it is such a particular and personal situation I am in, but I am truly seeking any advice anyone might have on how to make it work down south.

My Spanish is coming a long. I would give my self a C in conversational spanish, definitely not great, but not too shabby.

How did you go about purchasing property? Acquiring the finances for all of this before hand? or... had it from the US to being with?

Como hizieron todos?


Kche



forgive the rudimental nature of my question

 

[French jurist]

Just to clarify : you seek a 40.000$ piece of land with a small 300.000$ house ?
300.000$ can buy a very big house in the province (Bariloche might be more expensive than the other provinces though)

 

[citygirl]

I'm assuming you meant 30,000 for the house, not 300.000

If you want my honest advice - prioritize what is important to you. If the house/land is a must, then you need to begin to look for a higher paid job or taking a 2nd job. That probably means staying full-time in the US to build up some capital. And full-time I mean not flying to Arg, that alone will cost a few thousand a year in tix.

If you want to be in Arg full-time and save up money, I would strongly suggest coming up with some self-employment. Obviously salaries here aren't anywhere near the levels that you are looking at needing. Perhaps you can arrange some type of wilderness adventure/tours for foreigners and charge them in dollars?

Only other suggestion is look at family and friends, perhaps someone would be willing to loan you the money and you could pay it back over time?

 

[French jurist]

Yes it's probably 30.000 not 300.000.

You could too wait a year, if you can, until after the 2011 presidential elections (around oct./nov. 2011) and get ready to come anytime because there are chances a devaluation might be coming.

If you handle various lenguages (and if you are good at it), you can work too from home doing translations for US companies and make, in the long run, up to 150-200 USD a day (around 10 cents per word).

 

[davonz]

I was looking at purchasing land in san rafael, and the land was US$3000 per acre planted in grapes, or around US$1000 bare - not that you could buy just one acre, usually 10 was around the min. And a basic 1 bedroom house was around US$15000. It all depends on what you want - and i am guessing if you do alot of wilderness stuff with your work you dont care about alot of the needs/wants that alot of people do.
When you live in the country (as in not in town)or have a block of land, cost go down if you are willing to do stuff like growing veges, having fruit trees etc - they save money. Log fires for heating and hot water save money. Having chickens, a cow for milk/cheese/butter/yoghurt etc and selling whats not consumed by you makes a little money or can be swapped for what you want.
So US$12000 doesnt sound like alot, but maybe you dont need much else.

 

[gouchobob]

40k for land and 300k for a house doesn't sound realistic to say the least on an annual income of $12k. This would take your entire income for the next 30 years, not realistic.

 

[steveinbsas]

When I was shopping for a rural property six months ago (on the internet) I saw a wood house in/near Bariloche for $65K USD (cash or trade). It was rustic, but I liked it a lot. It may no longer be available, but that might give you an idea of what's out there. I used a google search to find it.

If you actually have $330,000USD to spend, you can buy this:

http://bariloche.olx.com.ar/casa-de-reconocida-arquitectura-de-1-nivel-para-exigentes-iid-104779819

But for $20,000 USD you can buy this (without the land):

http://bariloche.olx.com.ar/casa-de-reconocida-arquitectura-de-1-nivel-para-exigentes-iid-104779819

 

[studiodio]

steve. you used the same link for the 20,000 place as you did the 330,000 place...and now i am real curious to see the 20,000 place!

 

[SaraSara]

When I was shopping for a rural property six months ago (on the internet)
If you actually have $330,000USD to spend, you can buy this:

http://bariloche.olx.com.ar/casa-de-reconocida-arquitectura-de-1-nivel-para-exigentes-iid-104779819

But for $20,000 USD you can buy this (without the land):

http://bariloche.olx.com.ar/casa-de-reconocida-arquitectura-de-1-nivel-para-exigentes-iid-104779819

Same house - and why no pets? Is that a US$330,000 RENTAL?

 

[steveinbsas]

When I was shopping for a rural property six months ago (on the internet) I saw a wood house in/near Bariloche for $65K USD (cash or trade). It was rustic, but I liked it a lot. It may no longer be available, but that might give you an idea of what's out there. I used a google search to find it.

Here it is and the price is now $75K USD:

http://www.sibariloche.com/detalle.asp?id=7014&inmobiliaria=415

I found it here:

http://www.sibariloche.com/propiedades.asp?start=61&id=Casa&op=Compra&desde=&hasta=#