"The EG.5 subvariant is already in Argentina, could COVID cases increase?"

[FrankPintor]

FrankPintor, we've been lied to. you call this information and these claims "defacing" this thread, but if people hadn't alerted me to the dangers of the COVID 'vaccines' i might have some serious side-effects from all these unnecessary boosters. you won't listen, but someone else will. this is why i posted.

funny you claim you know more than the leading cardiologist, McCullough. he's published his COVID protocol publicly for docs around the world to use. literally no one has demonstrated it isn't working, and thousands of people will attest to its efficacy. do you think Joe Rogan paid a witchdoctor to give him IVM? he went to the top doc nearby and got prescribed IVM off-label. people always act like he went to Tractor Supply and injected himself with dangerous meds; he was treated by a physician, dummy!

the only dissent about these EARLY treatment protocols is from BigPharma shills like Peter Hotez who get paid to spread propaganda. you won't look at these links or testimonies, but maybe other people will. waiting until people are hypoxic, then rushing them to the ER/ICU for a ventilator and Remdesivir is now known to kill people who could have survived COVID with early treatment. here's the protocol:

Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH COVID-19 Treatment Protocols

Peter A. McCullough, M.D., M.P.H., Vice Chief of Internal Medicine, Baylor University Medical Center, et al. published an article in the American Journal of Medicine, August 2020: "Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection." The...

lymediseaseassociation.org

(with a video explaining, and a testimony to the US Congress)

and here's the 2021 article.

https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002-9343(20)30673-2/fulltext

it's not a quack article, but your cognitive dissonance probably won't allow you to comprehend that you've been lied to for years now. HCQ and IVM work. it wasn't until Pfizer needed emergency-use authorization that CNN began claiming Ivermectin was a 'horse dewormer.' hint: it's been used billions of times for many years, and it has many uses. for instance, my dog has been taking IVM as HeartGard monthly his entire life. humans have used it around the globe for years. it is super safe and powerful. what's amazing is that you. FrankPintor, believe you're on the side of the angels against homicidal physicians like McCullough (and the inventor of mRNA, Robert Malone), yet you can't simply follow the money and think that perhaps TV Man isn't actually the "good guy" these days.

Well, it didn't take long to out you, did it? It's a flat-out lie to say I claim you know more than the leading cardiologist", Point to where I make that claim. But no, you can't, it's easier to put up straw men, invent positions to attack, rather than respond to the factual arguments, and of course it's even easier to make ad-hominem attacks like "your cognitive dissonance probably won't allow you...". When you have no good arguments you resort to spreading shit.

This cardiologist, whose lack of qualifications in virology I pointed out, has been debunked many times by researchers and scientists much better qualified than him (and me), and who have actually performed clinical trials to validate their findings. I don't need to know more than this cardiologist, I just weigh the qualifications and trial results of many actual virologists and researchers against what someone said on Twitter, and I decide what to believe.

Who is Joe Rogan? Is he someone else on Twitter, or radio, or TV, or something? Does he have any academic qualifications?

By the way, just since you seem to have missed it, Ivermectin is actually a dewormer, it's been used for that purpose for many years for horses, dogs, and people (for scabies). You can buy it here in BA, with a prescription, it comes with a long list of warnings. Also, since you also seem to have missed this, the doses for horses and people are different, you mix one up with the other (easy to do in your case, I imagine), and the results could be quite dangerous.

The ANJMED article from 2020 is an interesting snapshot of how things were in the pandemic before we had vaccines. Doctors were quite desperate then. The prime minister of my country (a doctor) had gone back to working part time in a hospital, that's how bad it was. The article is a good summary of the very limited treatments and what was known about them (not much in the context of the pandemic) available at that point, I guess you missed that it doesn't mention Ivermectin. At all. Oh well. It laments the lack of clinical trials for many treatments (several now considered ineffective in light of further research). Now, 3 years on, we have all that research, clinical trials and vaccines, and we are much better off because of it, despite the misinformation spread by you and others.

 

[sts7049]

an excellent video on the topic

 

[steveinbsas]

Who is Joe Rogan? Is he someone else on Twitter, or radio, or TV, or something? Does he have any academic qualifications?

Joe Roga is a "podcaster" who attrbutes his quick recovery from Covid to (among ther medications) ivermection.

I am reasonably cerain that he does not havr any "academic qualifications" but having a degree doesn't necessarity make anyone (inclding "scientists") right about anything in an arguement, especially when they are lying.

According to Joe, his podcast is ten times bigger than CNN

 

[StatusNomadicus]

FrankPintor with all the usual commie phrases: "misinformation" (me posting the most-used early treatment for COVID), playing the victim card (i didn't ad-hominem, i said this mindset is too brainwashed to accept any different worldview), dismiss factual evidence with the single claim of "spreading shit" (failed to address scholarly links, failure to address IVM is not primarily a de-wormer, etc.).

McCullough hasn't been "debunked," but like i said, some people are too far gone the propaganda hole to pull themselves out. go wear your surgical mask outdoors and get your 15th booster bro; there's nothing anyone can say to dissuade you.

Rogan is intellectually open and speaks for multiple hours to the most intelligent people on the planet, weekly. he's changed his mind on many things, and will continue to. this is the way! ZeroHedge has great articles and is actual journalism, not CNN/Fox funded by Pfizer et al.

lastly, pre-vaccine wasn't a different world than now. the early treatment protocol worked in 2020 and it works today. again: the only reason IVM and HCQ were demonized (and sheeple must be convinced they are de-wormers still, today) was because BigPharma needed emergency authorization which can only be granted if there are no treatments. follow the money, and remember:

1. COVID vaccines can cause myocarditis. https://thecountersignal.com/cdc-re...tis-cases-in-february-2021-but-kept-it-quiet/

2. The vaccines don't give immunity; they can actually make you get sick, more. https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/cdc-fina...-now-more-susceptible-to-covid-than-unvaxxed/

3. CNN even admits the protection isn't right for the strains. https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/07/health/omicron-variant-pfizer-vaccine-south-africa-study/index.html

4. The disease itself is survivable and wasn't a big deal, but the gov't needed a crisis. "Conclusions The IFR of COVID-19 in community-dwelling elderly people is lower than previously reported. Very low IFRs were confirmed in the youngest populations." https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.08.21260210v2.full (and https://brownstone.org/articles/how-dangerous-was-covid-anyway/ analysis)

5. mRNA is experimental, with no long-term human studies, and its inventor wrote a book about how his work was corrupted. https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lies_My_Gov_t_Told_Me/p9taEAAAQBAJ

 

[elhombresinnombre]

Okay, so this thread has definitely taken a turn towards the distinctly weird so I've got to ask: how many of you are 'Bots?

Raise your right hand if you are a 'Bot. Oh, wait a moment, if you are 'Bot you won't have any hands so..
...why don't you find some other way to make yourselves known?

And this is a pretty weird posting from me too. Maybe I'm a 'Bot?

 

[FrankPintor]

Joe Roga is a "podcaster" who attrbutes his quick recovery from Covid to (among ther medications) ivermection.

I am reasonably cerain that he does not havr any "academic qualifications" but having a degree doesn't necessarity make anyone (inclding "scientists") right about anything in an arguement, especially when they are lying.

According to Joe, his podcast is ten times bigger than CNN

ok, I googled him as well, he doesn't seem like someone I'd turn to for medical advice.

I do prefer to take medical advice from people who've actually been through medical school, and give proven advice in the fields they qualified in. Even more so from people who publish peer-reviewed research and conduct proper clinical trials, all of which means their work has received criticism and been shown to be correct.

You need to make you own mind up about this, of course, if you want to believe some guy off Twitter, or a podcast, go ahead. But one guy who got better after COVID and took Ivermectin proves nothing to the wider world. Most people recover from COVID. Maybe he needed deworming. Who knows? Certainly not us...

 

[StatusNomadicus]

how's it weird, elhombresinnombre? there was fear-mongering about a new variant, people posted their opinions and sources, and overall it has been a passionate but reasonable debate. define "distinctly weird" for me, since you seem to be bothered by a discussion. i've been locked-down for 14 months in the past and ended up moving states because of it, so i'm passionate about rejecting fear tactics, as i'm sure many others are. not sure what your reply is even about; please explain

 

[FrankPintor]

FrankPintor with all the usual commie phrases: "misinformation" (me posting the most-used early treatment for COVID), playing the victim card (i didn't ad-hominem, i said this mindset is too brainwashed to accept any different worldview), dismiss factual evidence with the single claim of "spreading shit" (failed to address scholarly links, failure to address IVM is not primarily a de-wormer, etc.).

McCullough hasn't been "debunked," but like i said, some people are too far gone the propaganda hole to pull themselves out. go wear your surgical mask outdoors and get your 15th booster bro; there's nothing anyone can say to dissuade you.

Rogan is intellectually open and speaks for multiple hours to the most intelligent people on the planet, weekly. he's changed his mind on many things, and will continue to. this is the way! ZeroHedge has great articles and is actual journalism, not CNN/Fox funded by Pfizer et al.

lastly, pre-vaccine wasn't a different world than now. the early treatment protocol worked in 2020 and it works today. again: the only reason IVM and HCQ were demonized (and sheeple must be convinced they are de-wormers still, today) was because BigPharma needed emergency authorization which can only be granted if there are no treatments. follow the money, and remember:

Right, so I'm a "commie" now And you still claim not to be using ad-hominem arguments . Your self-awareness appears to be zero, it's clear here's even less to you than meets the eye

Yes, your pet cardiologist has been debunked multiple times (I included the reference in one of my posts), What "scholarly articles" are you referring to? The one on the Lyme Disease website (do you even know what Lyme disease is? It has nothing whatever to do with COVID) where he's still claiming his affiliation with Baylor? Right...

I did respond to the one (rather more serious) ANJMED article, and yes, pre-vaccine was a completely different world to now. We know people, normal middle-aged people with no apparent health issues, who died from COVID, and for no other apparent reason. They died horribly, basically asphyxiated. That life is different now is down to having vaccines (which were effective against the original, most dangerous variants), getting us through the most dangerous years, and to the virus itself mutating into variants that are more infectious, but less dangerous (nose and throat infections, not your lungs). No amount of Twitter or podcast grandstanding, or libertarian medicine, should convince any rational person of the contrary.

 

[FrankPintor]

Okay, so this thread has definitely taken a turn towards the distinctly weird so I've got to ask: how many of you are 'Bots?

Raise your right hand if you are a 'Bot. Oh, wait a moment, if you are 'Bot you won't have any hands so..
...why don't you find some other way to make yourselves known?

And this is a pretty weird posting from me too. Maybe I'm a 'Bot?

Well, it was a nice, quiet, informative thread with reports on the evolution of COVID here in Argentina over the past few months, and updates about what sort of vaccines are available here. Normal, uncontroversial, factual information, mostly collected by @gracielle, nothing to excite anyone really.

But some antivaxxers decided it was too good to leave like that and were compelled to crap all over it. So that's why it went weird. Oh well.

About bots, I dunno. It's possible. Is zero self-awareness an indicator of a bot?

 

[elhombresinnombre]

About bots, I dunno. It's possible. Is zero self-awareness an indicator of a bot?

Could be. But don't ask me, I might be a Bot ;^)

I'm noticing changes in textual style; contradictory positions, sometimes within the same article or thread but often in comparison with earlier taken positions; irrelevancies (which at first glance can look good but turn out to be pointless) and verbosity - but don't ask me to point out examples, the humans here can find them for themselves and, speaking as a possible Bot myself, it's not my job to train my owner's rivals' products:^)

However tongue in cheek that may be, I'd still be interested to hear from humans whether or not some of them are using LLMs to -ahem- enhance their posts to BAExpats???