World media in overdrive on Argentina

[mmoon]

I am sorry to say that I don’t think the world media is in overdrive over Argentina. I’m currently out of the country, and despite my subscription to relevant news alerts on my phone, I only heard about the latest controls when a friend in BsAs texted me about them. One more problem with Argentina is how many Argentine politicians and residents overestimate how much the world cares/thinks/depends on the country. For many outside of Argentina who are even bothering to follow the news, I suspect this latest crisis is just more of the same.

 

[retiredbanker]

A suggestion. When you claim that a statement someone has written is false, it helps everyone if you state how it is false, and what you believe to be true. Like remember in elementary school when we had a "true or false" test, and the instructions said "if it's false, say what would make the statement true".

I'm interested in the whole Patagonia thing, so citing sources is much appreciated.

The story is a complete fairy tale to be believed by those beyond the ability to comprehend the real truth. I am not anyone's research assistant so if you have doubts, YOU check it out! This site is not a grammar school.

 

[retiredbanker]

Cuando en Francia se debatió el canje de la Patagonia por deuda pública

Por Gonzalo Carranza El 5 de Marzo del 2003 diarios franceses debatieron sobre la cesión de tierras argentinas por canje de deuda. El diario “Liberation

argentinatoday.org

Have you bothered to read the link or you do not understand spanish ?

Not only do I not click links but yes, my Spanish is not good. That, however does not deflect from the outright fabrication cited in earlier posts here. Rather than get into semantics, do your own research to see the false claim an earlier post contained.

 

[perry]

The story is a complete fairy tale to be believed by those beyond the ability to comprehend the real truth. I am not anyone's research assistant so if you have doubts, YOU check it out! This site is not a grammar school.

Please state facts instead of cheap insults that do nothing to open debate . You did not even bother to read the link as most educated people would have done !

 

[ghost]

I prefer to live in a stable middle income society where human values and principles are paramount.

HUH?

 

[retiredbanker]

Please state facts instead of cheap insults that do nothing to open debate . You did not even bother to read the link as most educated people would have done !

Say what? Even better, mumble that again! You're one of those I was referring to in my post. Thank you for proving what I said was spot on.

 

[London2Baires]

Not only do I not click links but yes, my Spanish is not good. That, however does not deflect from the outright fabrication cited in earlier posts here. Rather than get into semantics, do your own research to see the false claim an earlier post contained.

I just read through the, somewhat long, and purely speculative 'article' linked.

It provides zero substantive evidence that there where historically, or presently, any plans to use Patagonia as some sort of colateral with which to settle the debts owed.

The article merley references a set of other, mostly European, newspaper articles which speculate on this possibility. It all sounds like thought experiments and sensationalism with no facts backing anything.

The compilation article talks a lot about how the owners of North Face have purchased large areas of Patagonia through a foundation, and how MIT made a survey a decade ago in Patagonia asking whether the population would be happy being ceeded to the USA and run by a foreign governments, apparently this was funded by some sketchy people (according to the article). They then say that this, plus the random European news articles they cite, means that Patagonia was almost ceeded to the vulture funds last default, and Perry then tells us this is evidence that it will happen now.

Talk about spinning a yarn.

I'm not convinced, not to say that there isn't any evidence that would convinced me. But this isn't it.

Cheers!

 

[perry]

I just read through the, somewhat long, and purely speculative 'article' linked.

It provides zero substantive evidence that there where historically, or presently, any plans to use Patagonia as some sort of colateral with which to settle the debts owed.

The article merley references a set of other, mostly European, newspaper articles which speculate on this possibility. It all sounds like thought experiments and sensationalism with no facts backing anything.

The compilation article talks a lot about how the owners of North Face have purchased large areas of Patagonia through a foundation, and how MIT made a survey a decade ago in Patagonia asking whether the population would be happy being ceeded to the USA and run by a foreign governments, apparently this was funded by some sketchy people (according to the article). They then say that this, plus the random European news articles they cite, means that Patagonia was almost ceeded to the vulture funds last default, and Perry then tells us this is evidence that it will happen now.

Talk about spinning a yarn.

I'm not convinced, not to say that there isn't any evidence that would convinced me. But this isn't it.

Cheers!

When one has a closed mind one million articles and links wiill not change it . I stand by my beliefs and intuition that this crisis has a sinister goal in mind and that Patagonia could be the reason.

Let this be on the public record and in 5 years time we can see if I was wrong .

 

[retiredbanker]

When one has a closed mind one million articles and links wiill not change it . I stand by my beliefs and intuition that this crisis has a sinister goal in mind and that Patagonia could be the reason.

Let this be on the public record and in 5 years time we can see if I was wrong .

Seems Perry won't admit his post is all wet.

 

[semigoodlookin]

Perry as you like links:

BBC News homepage: https://www.bbc.com/news (no mention of Argentina)
BBC World page: https://www.bbc.com/news/world (Argentina not here)
BBC Business page: https://www.bbc.com/news/business (mmmmmm)

To see news on Argentina which has sent the world's media into apparent overdrive you have to head to the BBC Latin America page, where the latest informaiton (on the controls) is the fourth item behind a story about murder in Colombia, something about Brazil's president missing a summit, etc.

CNN homepage: https://edition.cnn.com/ (no mention of Argentina)
CNN World page: https://edition.cnn.com/world (Argentina not here)
CNN America page: https://edition.cnn.com/americas (mmmmmm)
CNN Business: https://edition.cnn.com/business (What a surprise, no Argentine)

Argentina is such big business on the news agenda that CNN somehow isn't covering the story.

Al Jazeera homepage: https://www.aljazeera.com/ (no mention of Argentina)
Al Jazeera Latin America page: https://www.aljazeera.com/topics/regions/latin-america.html (Yey, Argentina is the fourth story!)

News.com (Australia) homepage: https://www.news.com.au/ (nope)
News.com World page: https://www.news.com.au/world (sorry)
News.com Finance page: https://www.news.com.au/finance (ummm, no!)
News.com South America: https://www.news.com.au/world/south-america (This is awkward, but no)

So, there are four major news outlets from different countries, I also visited the largest news organizations in Canada, Germany, France, and Japan with similar results. The only mention of Argentina is on dedicated Latin America pages (and then only sporadically depending the outlet) or business/finance pages. Now, I imagine the economy sections of most news outlets covered/cover the current state of Argentina, and so they should.

World media in overdrive you say? An excellent example of the world media going into overdrive about a situation happening in one country would be Boris Johnson and Brexit this week, and then I still think the word overdrive is an exaggeration. News outlets all over the world are putting this front page, often as their lead online story. This is an example of a country that does have importance on a global level (we can debate if that's deserved or waning, but that's not the point). Unfortunately, your arguments are not born from facts.