A Beautiful Madhouse?

[bobsnowpuppy]

Noesdeayer - I was simply relaying the thoughts of my relatives here as to why they are complacent. So this was not my opinion, but comments passed on from some Argentine nationals. Their feeling of being repressed goes way beyond 38 years, by the way. Unfortunately it is the history of this nation that the government suppresses the people whether military or so-called democracies. As with many countries, politicians use the people as stepping-stones to power and often times wealth. Sadly, the nature of the economy here doesn't leave much room for profitability among the public when the governments are continuously bleeding the coffers dry.

 

[Noesdeayer]

Camberiu.
I am not altogether sure why you posted that Reagan video.Maybe you could clarify that for me.if you like.However,it made me think about some words Pope Francisco spoke in Mexico to the Mexicans. that he hoped for a Mexico where people didn't have to emmigrate to dream.I think that would be something for many countries to hope for including just for instance Argentina,Brazil and Colombia to name only a few.
bobsnowpuppy : Keep a close eye on what Macri does with the Argentine economy.We must goal set him .If he doesn't make good on everything he says,he must be drawn to task to explain why not and what he plans to do about it.That is a task for the Argentine people as a whole not just those in government.

 

[UK Man]

My wife is Argentinean. It wasn't until she experienced many years of living in Britain she realised how low down the ladder Argentina has fallen over the years in all areas not just economically. I think many Argentines either aren't aware how low they've fallen or are just too proud to admit to it. She's still very proud of her country but since moving back here her views have become very negative especially on the consumer side of things. She went to Vea yesterday to use a discount voucher only to be told at checkout she couldn't use it as she was paying with a Nativa card. When she asked why this week was different from last week the girl told her they had received an email that morning telling them so. ''But the voucher t&c's doesn't say this and it runs out today'' said my wife but they wouldn't budge. It's little things like that that really get on her nerves.

 

[Noesdeayer]

UK Man :
Excuse me but I am curious How many years has your wife lived outside of Argentina? If Argentina "has fallen down the ladder", which I agree it has.it is mainly due to the continued application of Keynesian (who was British himself) economics since the onset of the 1st Peronist gov't in the 1940s.Nonetheless,Argentine society was so irioncladly classist up until the 1930s that the only "ladder" to clmb out of poverty and into any sort of social mobility that working people could envision was the populist "ladder" of Peronism,
In their view,Justicialism offered them a way up and at the same time a chance to get back at the "oligarquia contumaz ---the incredibly stubborn oligarcy".if the high end groups had been willing to give up even a portion of their wealth,most likely Peron would not have been necessary.
Finally,after 70 years Argentine society appears to have given itself a second chance in supplying such ladders .It is to be hoped that they do not squander it.

 

[UK Man]

UK Man :
Excuse me but I am curious How many years has your wife lived outside of Argentina?

She had ten years living in Britain. She thinks Britain is far from perfect but since coming back she realises how stressful life is here mainly because in Britain the consumer calls the shots. I'd better not mention her thoughts on corruption and her fellow users of the road.