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[Dublin2BuenosAires]

It is literally impossible to argue with vague statements like "there are a number of scientists who..." and the whole desparate clinging to Drew is rather bizarre, I mean he is one person entirely entitled to his opinions.

You are very attached to the big bang despite me mentioning that it was only one of a number of complementary theories. The difference between all of these concurrent theories and the optimistically named Intelligent Design is that they rely on physics and mathematics rather than religious philosophy. If you are comfortable with that, that is your choice and you are welcome to it. I believe it has no basis in the science classroom.

Post positivist, possibly, if that makes you feel more comfortable with the awkward pigeon holes which the philosophy of science insists upon. Certainly a pragmatist, and definitely a rejectionist in terms of the dogmatic nonsense represented by Intelligent Design.

Good luck & goodbye.

 

[robwerwe]

Dublin you can't reason with a religious nut by using things like "facts". His mind is firmly closed on the matter just like his religious masters have taught him to be.

 

[Jaredberryman]

Dublin you can't reason with a religious nut by using things like "facts". His mind is firmly closed on the matter just like his religious masters have taught him to be.

Excuse me? What was nutty about what I posted? Was there anything there that sounded illogical? Explain yourself.

 

[internationalguy]

Excuse me? What was nutty about what I posted? Was there anything there that sounded illogical? Explain yourself.

Tex, don't bother. I tried. All Dublin et. al. see is what they want to see. When you stonewall them with something their "facts" can't answer they simply freak out and immediately try to attack our position with irrational attacks. Just that you know guys. let me raise my voice so you can hear it one more time. WE ACCEPT BIG BANG. WE ACCEPT EVOLUTION. WE ACCEPT YOUR THEORIES BASED ON FACTS. HOWEVER, THOSE FACTS, PLUS SEVERAL SCIENTIFIC RULES LIKE... MATTER DOESN'T GET CREATED OR DESTROYED IT ONLY TRANSFORMS AND OF COURSE NEWTON'S FIRST LAW TELL US THAT BIG BANG COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED UNLESS SOMEONE/ SOMETHING/ ANYTHING PUT THE GIANT MASS OF MATTER THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. FURTHERMORE, SOMEONE/ SOMETHING/ ANYTHING HAD TO START A REACTION THAT TURNED THAT MASS INTO WHAT WE KNOW AS THE UNIVERSE.

How can people who say they are so rational really want me to believe that the one big event that created the universe happened randomly and breaking at least half a dozen laws of physics. ARE YOU FOR REAL???????

 

[AmigoArtistico]

Well, I guess your impressive scientific arguments convinced me. I guess I believe in Intelligent Design now. You've changed my life.

 

[internationalguy]

Well, I guess your impressive scientific arguments convinced me. I guess I believe in Intelligent Design now. You've changed my life.

Could someone close this d**m thread before this carries on forever. It's been off topic for so long now.