Areas of reform

[Jim Prideaux]

What actions of reform are required -- based on your personal experiences -- for Argentina to achieve growth?

 

[Rich One]

What actions of reform are required -- based on your personal experiences -- for Argentina to achieve growth?

Eliminate Corruption..!! This is not possible, So growth is just a mirage..

 

[antipodean]

Tax. The tax system needs to be simplified and bureaucracy reduced. Higher or lower it just needs to be simple and fair to rich and poor alike and not used as a tool of popularism or persecution. Further people need to feel good about paying it and like it is being spent properly and not siphoned off.
Trust. The government needs to protect private capital and personal property to encourage investment in Argentina. This means being sensible and restrained in policy-making rather than populist/opportunist so people don't see parking their money offshore as soon as they make it as the only safe option because "you never know what will happen next". You need money to make jobs, and you need more money to make quality jobs.
Truth. The government needs to have greater separation of powers and greater transparency for all institutions. Corruption needs to end. More independent oversight and scrutiny. Politicians guilty of corruption should do their time and not walk in and out of jail depending on what party is in charge.
Politics. -isms are never the solution and only serve divide societies that actually need to work together to progress. The reality here is that there is a "political class" of career politicians and union leaders who depend on states of conflict to be able to thrive, especially on the financial side.
People. Personism is just as guilty as neo-liberalism here of treating the poor like shit. There has always been terrible poverty in Argentina and it just keeps getting worse. Poverty was alive and well under the K's as it was under Macri. It did not happen overnight or in a few short years. Poverty is always used as a political weapon. Focus needs to be on creating social mobility rather than trapping the poor where they are and making them dependent on aid just so they will jump on a bus and go to your political rally or piquet line to make a few extra bucks. Quality housing, education and healthcare should be focused on these areas - and in a country with limited resources, those with the genuine means to pay for education or healthcare should pay rather get them for free. Equal opportunity laws should be used to try to reduce the amount of nepotism rife within private and public organizations creating numerous endless glass ceilings.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Eliminate Corruption..!! This is not possible, So growth is just a mirage..

Why do Argentinians tolerate it?

 

[Somewhereinba]

Why do Argentinians tolerate it?

Because those with the power benefit from it and give the scraps to those with less to keep them quiet. It's a very simple system of keeping the poor in poverty but giving them just enough to think you are great. Throw in a bit of propaganda about the evil developed world and you have Argentina. The middle class suffers the most because their income is destroyed with each devaluation - the poor keep getting the basics (free healthcare, football para todos, empanadas, pizzas, clothes, money for having children) and the rich get richer.

 

[gracielle]

Because those with the power benefit from it and give the scraps to those with less to keep them quiet. It's a very simple system of keeping the poor in poverty but giving them just enough to think you are great. Throw in a bit of propaganda about the evil developed world and you have Argentina. The middle class suffers the most because their income is destroyed with each devaluation - the poor keep getting the basics (free healthcare, football para todos, empanadas, pizzas, clothes, money for having children) and the rich get richer.

And the upper middle class get by hiding a portion of their income "in negro" in pesos derived from side business investments, such apt rentals and other enterprises. Said income is utilized to buy dollars "in negro" which they can sell during adverse economic periods.

 

[Somewhereinba]

The most common theme I have seen with those that believe the K propaganda is a distinct lack of overseas travel and experience. All the Argentines I know who have done extensive travel and seen how other countries work and operate are against the K system. Those who live in the bubble called Argentina and get fed propaganda in University and on TV are the ones who really believe the country is going great and all those developed countries are evil and want to destroy Argentina. The only other group that supports the K's are those directly benefitting from it via Government handouts and income gain from corrupt practises or influence.

 

[Rich One]

The most common theme I have seen with those that believe the K propaganda is a distinct lack of overseas travel and experience. All the Argentines I know who have done extensive travel and seen how other countries work and operate are against the K system. Those who live in the bubble called Argentina and get fed propaganda in University and on TV are the ones who really believe the country is going great and all those developed countries are evil and want to destroy Argentina. The only other group that supports the K's are those directly benefitting from it via Government handouts and income gain from corrupt practises or influence.

Can't bite the hand that feeds you..!

 

[HenryNisental]

They forget the main issue: the federal goverment fiscal deficit since the 60's.

 

[Rich One]

Why do Argentinians tolerate it?

I posted this before, like 10 years ago, but the audience may be renewed? (see. Mirtha Legrand in confinment ..!)

Argentina is is like a house full full of termites that have corroded all the foundation wooden beams,, You kill the termites , the House collapses.. Plop . Termites where part of the structure. It implodes.

Whenever they investigate a scandal in a single area it's all corrupt:

In the Last 17 years in Argentina have seen them all go to Court . Like Municipalities, Formosa Province, all the Fiefdoms that exist in some Provinces.. Very few heads, if any, rolled..!