Argentina Has The 3Rd Lowest Murder Rate In Latin America

[camberiu]

Then why dont Brazil, Mexico, Colombia, etc just simply lie and put themselves above Cuba?

Yeah, good question. Because those countries have this thing called democratic constitutions, that amongst many things, allow people to conduct their own researches and challenge the official numbers. So, if the Brazilian government says that the country has the same child mortality rate as say, Sweden, any Brazilian research institute, university sociology department or NGO can request the data for validation or they can conduct the same research themselves to see of the numbers match. That was the challenge that your government faced when it was doctoring the inflation numbers here. Now, try to do that in Cuba to see how far you go.

 

[ARbound]

Cuba a police state?!?!?!?!?!?

The Process had dictators?!?!?!?!?

Good lord I hope you're trolling...

Try going and making public statements against the government or make supporting statements for a multi party state.

 

[Matiasba]

Depends on the point of view. Obviously many people from UBA would see it as a full democracy. I am a little old fashioned, reactionary type of guy, so i think that the lack of habeas corpus and freedom of the press tend to characterize police states. But that is me.

Im from UBA sociology and do not think Cuba is a democracy, at all. In fact I already wrote here about Cuba not being a democracy. But that is far from a police state ike the US or some european countries. Its not a militarised country, be sure of that, you dont have arms, its not violent, its not inequal (lots of sociological studies say that the main cause of violence in our societies is inequality, and Cuba being socialist is certainly not inequality).
So, it is not a democracy, you maybe dont have liberties, but you have the best health of Latin America, you have free education, at high levels, you have equality, you dont have violence.

You dont have the presence of the police everywhere, you have the State, which is quite different, very present. Thats why I think Cuba its not a police state.

 

[Matiasba]

Yeah, good question. Because those countries have this thing called democratic constitutions, that amongst many things, allow people to conduct their own researches and challenge the official numbers. So, if the Brazilian government says that the country has the same child mortality rate as say, Sweden, any Brazilian research institute, university sociology department or NGO can request the data for validation or they can conduct the same research themselves to see of the numbers match. That was the challenge that your government faced when it was doctoring the inflation numbers here. Now, try to do that in Cuba to see how far you go.

so basically, your argument is that all numbers that come from Cuba simply are a lie, meanwhile in the other countries of the region thay have ways to not permit that. So if they can lie and nobody controls that, why dont they say they are better than Sweden?

 

[camberiu]

"[background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]so basically, your argument is that all numbers that come from Cuba simply are a lie"

I did not say it is a lie. I said that there is no way to validate it, so the incentives for exaggeration, for fudging the numbers are very high. Why would they not exaggerate to the point of being better than Sweden? Because probably they don't have to and would hurt their believability. Just showing some of the best indexes in Latin America is good enough and makes your claims more believable. [/background]