Argentina Medical School

[Animal1234]

Hello, I' m Sheawj's medical half. I'm in 4th Year (4 out of 6 or 7, counting internship)

I don't know if you're planning on going to UBA or to one of the private ones :Barceló, UCA hmmm... I' m not too familiar with private schools actually. The good thing about the private ones is that you get to go to the hospital from 1st year, although from what I heard, you don't get to do much. No idea about their tuition fees. As for UBA, to get into the school I know you have to pass some sort of Spanish test and you might need a bit more of paperwork (I was trying to post it but my computer is working slow and funky, but type in Google Resolución N º 1523/90 del Ministerio de Educación, Ciencia y Tecnología and it might say what you require to enter UBA. After all your paperwork is done you will need to the the CBC, you' ll be taking a bunch of basic subjects (chemistry, math, biophysics, cellular biology, epistemology and Argentine history) with a bunch of other students from different careers. Once that is completed you enter Medical school. The first three years you see basic medical subjects (Anatomy, physiology, etc) all your classes are in medical school and you see no patients. In 4th year you get a hospital assigned and then you go there every day for the clinical subjects. Once you complete all your subjects you do a year of internship (IAR) where apparently... you don't do much, you rotate in various hospitals but sometimes you just sit and see what the Dr is doing and that's it. It depends a lot on yourself and the hospital.
Also, if you are willing to work for free, there is a lot of things you will be able to do with no problems and depending on what it is, not much competition: do research, teach classes (of course you' ll have to pass a test and go a semester to teaching school for this), help in the ER of a hospital (specially South of Bs As)
Any other concerns just ask me.
Good luck!

Do you know if it is possible to skip the CBC courses if one has taken basic science courses in American universities? Are there any American or Canadian students who are enrolled in the medical school? Also which are the top medical schools in Argentina? Is there a ranking for both public/private?

Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions. Greatly appreciate it.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

Also, not to knock Argentine medical schools since the actual education is supposed to be excellent and people from all over Latin America go there to study, but when I went to a specialist in Houston for a second opinion after a BA specialist recommended I get surgery, they were blown away by the exams and reports I brought in. He said he hadn't seen anything like them since the 80s. The resident in his early 30s got a kick out of it. They do everything on iPads now--yes, there's an app for that. The technology in Argentina is behind (import restrictions won't help that anytime soon), and so were the surgical techniques, at least in my case. The surgery I was recommended was new in Argentina and I was going to have to wait for them to try to get a tool shipped in before I got it done, whereas in the U.S. it had been a common procedure for more than five years at that point. I trusted my Argentine doctor, but I said no to being a guinea pig considering the surgery carried a risk of stroke.

The point is, if you do somehow manage to get back to the U.S. to practice (if that's what you want), you may have to play catch up with a few things. Which I guess you could do while you repeat your residency...

In 2002, when I was unable to obtain insurance in the US (thanks, G.W. Bush!) but needed an MRI, I got one at the Clínica Fleni for US$100 over the counter. When I took the results back to my orthopedist in California, he said, "These are really good images." Admittedly, it's been a decade-plus and the import restrictions are a burden on progress here, but the Argentines are clearly capable. Look at Dr. Favaloro, whose pioneering bypass surgery technique has saved many thousands of lives.

 

[Supercharged]

Best medical school in Argentina is Universidad Austral in PIlar. The university has one of the best researchers, I worked with a few who studies at John Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, etc. U of Buenos Aires has some of the best researchers, but unfortunately the conditions and bureaucracy makes it impossible for some to navigate- thus graduate. My area is Administration and Policy in International education)

 

[ajoknoblauch]

While I'm thinking tangentially: tinyurl.com/ne3h75n

 

[DontMindMe]

In 2002, when I was unable to obtain insurance in the US (thanks, G.W. Bush!) but needed an MRI, I got one at the Clínica Fleni for US$100 over the counter. When I took the results back to my orthopedist in California, he said, "These are really good images." Admittedly, it's been a decade-plus and the import restrictions are a burden on progress here, but the Argentines are clearly capable. Look at Dr. Favaloro, whose pioneering bypass surgery technique has saved many thousands of lives.

I think you misunderstood the point of that post. The information on the exams was good and legible, and prevented me from having to do all those exams and tests again in the U.S. For that, I was very grateful. I was still covered under my parents' insurance thanks to the Affordable Care Act at that time, but would have had to pay something regardless, not to mention I was only home on a short visit and wouldn't have had the time to re-do everything. (We're talking more than a month of testing in search of a diagnosis.) My point was that someone who learns all that stuff on very outdated technology is going to have to catch up quick upon arrival to a place where they're decades ahead (again, only talking about technology, although don't forget what I wrote earlier about that surgery). Just something to keep in mind for the OP, but it appears OP doesn't want to do a residency in Argentina so it probably wouldn't be as big of a deal, maybe not at all.

 

[Hybrid Ambassador]

>No idea about their tuition fees...

I thought all education in Argentina are all free for anyone?

 

[Animal1234]

Best medical school in Argentina is Universidad Austral in PIlar. The university has one of the best researchers, I worked with a few who studies at John Hopkins, Cleveland Clinic, etc. U of Buenos Aires has some of the best researchers, but unfortunately the conditions and bureaucracy makes it impossible for some to navigate- thus graduate. My area is Administration and Policy in International education)

I did a little research on the school and I do seem to like the fact that the class sizes are smaller than UBA. Do you know what the tuition is for this program?

 

[Matiasba]

I disagree, the best medicine school is UBA in my opinion. The best doctors of the country are from UBA, you have excellence, tradition, even 3 Nobel prizes (+ Favaloro!!)

The professors of these private universities, are all from UBA. These universities dont have pretty much a lot of years of existance, they are simply sucking UBA prestige by paying enormous amounts to UBA proffesors, offering them more money (lots of them work for UBA ad honorem), so lots of good professors migrate to the private field. And lots of them remain at UBA too, or have both jobs.

What is true about these private universities, though, is that the conditions (buiding, infraestructure in general) are better than UBAs, and as well you dont have this huge beaurocracy to fight with.

 

[Supercharged]

I disagree, the best medicine school is UBA in my opinion. The best doctors of the country are from UBA, you have excellence, tradition, even 3 Nobel prizes (+ Favaloro!!)

The professors of these private universities, are all from UBA. These universities dont have pretty much a lot of years of existance, they are simply sucking UBA prestige by paying enormous amounts to UBA proffesors, offering them more money (lots of them work for UBA ad honorem), so lots of good professors migrate to the private field. And lots of them remain at UBA too, or have both jobs.

What is true about these private universities, though, is that the conditions (buiding, infraestructure in general) are better than UBAs, and as well you dont have this huge beaurocracy to fight with.

We might have different opinions. I have done research at post doc level on higher education international development for over 20 years. I would not dare to give my opinion unless I have solid supportive
documentation

 

[thorsten]

I disagree, the best medicine school is UBA in my opinion. The best doctors of the country are from UBA, you have excellence, tradition, even 3 Nobel prizes (+ Favaloro!!)

The professors of these private universities, are all from UBA. These universities dont have pretty much a lot of years of existance, they are simply sucking UBA prestige by paying enormous amounts to UBA proffesors, offering them more money (lots of them work for UBA ad honorem), so lots of good professors migrate to the private field. And lots of them remain at UBA too, or have both jobs.

What is true about these private universities, though, is that the conditions (buiding, infraestructure in general) are better than UBAs, and as well you dont have this huge beaurocracy to fight with.

So the private universities have the better buildings and infrastructure, streamlined processes and hire the good professors from UBA - but still you say UBA is the better school?!? Not saying A or B is better, but the argument doesn't make too much sense...