Argentina's history of anti-semitism

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kanguro

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Why don't you talk about the lobby that owns hollywood & wall st instead?
Why don't you ask those people in the USA who live in tents what they think about the 'special interest groups' who make up the overwhelming majotiry that controls world finance? Take your stale propaganda somewhere else.



sergio said:
Here's a very informative article from yesterday's Jerusalem Post on Argentina's long history of anti-semitism:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1236764158337&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
 

kanguro

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.... my bit of advice for you today is... perhaps you should pick a better day to go waving your flag & tossing stones. Just a suggestion only.


Why does Bernard Madoff evoke record-breaking resentment?
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1070333.html




Hollywood figures snared in Bernard Madoff's alleged fraud
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/17/business/fi-hollywood-madoff17




FRAUDSTER'S PARTNER IS DIRECTOR OF ISRAELI MONEY-LAUNDERING BANK IN NEW YORK
- SO, WHERE DID THE MONEY GO?
http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=184535




Bernie Madoff cut deep into LA’s Jewish community
http://www.jewishjournal.com/thegodblog/item/bernie_madoff_and_the_end_of_the_jews_20081214/



The Madoff Affair: A Guide to the Perplexed Antisemite
http://www.israelshamir.net/English/Madoff.htm




When Dockets Imitate Drama
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/27/theater/27cohe.html?sq=jewish&st=cse&adxnnl=1&scp=13&adxnnlx=1230393601-EGV5BF07Rf1C8oo313vHKw




White-Collar Sins: Bernard Madoff And Jewish Law
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2008/12/white-collar-si.html
 

sergio

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Kanguro, why don't you tell us about the lobbies you speak of? I posted what I think was an interesting article about Argentina and anti-semitism. The subject was Argentina, not Hollywood. If you want to talk about Hollywood and world finance you are free to do so. That is another subject.
 

Stanexpat

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Thank you Sergio for your post. I'm afraid I find Kanguro's posts the very definition of antisemitism. This is the kind of thinking that led up to the events of the 30's and 40's. I decided a response was necessary as I agree with the well worn quotation that for evil to prevail all that is necessary is for good men to say nothing.

This isn't the first time I've run across this regrettable type of thinking on this site. To be fair some of the most objectionable stuff was quickly removed . I personally think it might be a good thing to leave postings like this on the site. I hope many will join me in condemning this kind of thinking. I would hate people to get the wrong impression about expats in Argentina.

Most of this stuff comes from what I would call the loony left. One of their key beliefs is that there is a worldwide Jewish conspiracy that controls finance, the press, etc. This has always struck me as odd as this is something they could have gotten straight from Uncle Adolf which should be their ideological opposite pole.
 

kanguro

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How dare I question pro jewish views?
Daring to venture into prohibited go go territory, I shall be labelled & condemned as a German Nazi war criminal now!.

Sergio, I'll answer your question just as soon as you answer me my question to you... why do you feel the need to publish & slander Argentina as "Anti-Semitic"? why are you attacking argentines & labelling indirectly as Nazi sympathizers by highlighting some provocative jewish newspaper article?

Stan, to me there is a great difference between the rich & powerful money mafia that owns media, & common good folk of Jewish background. I have good jewish friends who agree with me in this department. Don't paint me with your one clor brush.

By the wayn Stan,, who are you? what is your motivation for lurking around here? you don't live here? Stan, you seem to be highly educated & wise in all things finance... what group pays for your opinions?
 

sergio

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Kanguro, The forum focuses on Argentina. The issue of anti-semitism in Argentina is nothing new. You will read in the newspapers here periodic stories of anti-semitic incidents including the desecration of Jewish cemeteries. A few years ago I complained to the encargado of an upscale apartment building in Recoleta that the huge swastika on the front of his building was highly offensive. He seemed quite sincere in telling me that he hadn't known that there was anything wrong with it. I later spoke to one of the building's owners who identified himself as an architect and assured me that the swastika would be removed. It stayed there for well over a year when it was inadequately erased - you could still see the outline of the swastika. This would be a crime in parts of Europe, punishable by imprisonment. In argentina it is a part of the landscape. I see nothing wrong with pointing out these facts, just as many on this website have criticized American society, especially former President George Bush. Argentina remained "neutral" throughout the Second World War (while indirectly supporting the Third Reich). It is not something the country should be proud of. Like the Japanese refusal to confront war atrocities committed in China, Argentine society has yet to deal adequately with its past of repeated dictatorship, repression and anti-semitism. I highly recommend that you read an article in last Sunday;s BA Herald entitled SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH VS NAIPAL. The article consists of reflections of an Argentine who lived through the period of disappearances (about 30,000 I believe! Certainly a Holocaust in itself) and nearly got in serious trouble himself - not for subversion but for the lesser crime of homosexuality.
 

RWS

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Stanexpat said:
. . . . Most of this stuff comes from what I would call the loony left. . . . This has always struck me as odd as this is something they could have gotten straight from Uncle Adolf which should be their ideological opposite pole.
If one be tied to the limitations of a linear placement of political beliefs and employ economic criteria for that placement, Hitlerian socialism ("National Socialist German Workers' Party", remember?) is solidly left of center.

No surprise, really.
 

Stanexpat

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RWS said:
If one be tied to the limitations of a linear placement of political beliefs and employ economic criteria for that placement, Hitlerian socialism ("National Socialist German Workers' Party", remember?) is solidly left of center.

No surprise, really.
I would agree but it still strikes me as odd. Another thing that strikes me as odd about Argentina is the Peronists. The current government is generally described as center-left (whatever that means). They have gotten into bed with other left-wing regimes in the region particularly with Hugo to the north. However the roots of the Peronists are clearly fascist, i.e. old Juan and Evita were big fans of Mussolini and Hitler and in part modeled their governments after them. Some of the fascist roots can still be seen in the current government, I guess this is an aspect of the current regime some admires on the left chose to ignore.
 

mochilera

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I don't understand why a post about an article has to generate in such aggressiveness from Kanguro's side. Antisemitism exists, but I believe also that some Jewish are also taking it too far. I don't blame them, I saw with my own eyes how mean people can be when referring to Israel and its population and religion, just as Kanguro did in this post.

I lived in Israel many years and I'm not Jewish (in case you want to say that I'm defending them because I'm one of them) you can question their politics, you can question many things from their religion or their government, I found myself very critic with the country and with the community as well, but you never NEVER can label a community with such an arguments like you did before...your speach is obviously saturated of bitterness and resentment proper of violent people and not from people looking for peace.
 
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