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Thanks, Pericles, for confirming that I'm not losing my memory -- 'twould be disastrous for this former historian! May the future be as you hope.
 

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"pericles" said:
The Government is doing a commendable job in restoring the Public Parks and surrounds and I beleive in a few years time the City will become relatively sparkling once again/
Not sure where you have been or really if you need to see a eye specialist. I have never been south of Mar de Plata but going north looks like one continuous garbage dump. NO PRIDE IN THESE PEOPLE Of course I do not blame all of them, only 80%.
They are turning a wonderland into a ghetto. Too bad. Today I hiked into a river to swim, was I surprised at the garbage there, upto and including tampons. Shit for brains. A spectacular place and being destroyed because these uneducated people won't take care of what they have.
We of course brought home our garbage, our coke cans, our water bottles.
As for BA the government is not doing shit diddly doo. And they will never do anythng to bring this problem up to par. How many fines do they hand out. Nada. So don't come on here and make up BS to us. When they start handing out fines for littering then you can say they are pro active.
I can tell you so much of what is happening here and it all comes down to NON-GOVERNMENTAL ACTION. N A D A !
 

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Pericles is right that the parks are being improved. The best is the Plaza Alemana. Great restoration. Plaza Vicente Lopez is also a lot better except for the new lamp posts which would be nice if they hadn't been painted a tacky gold. The issue will now be whether the people respect these places and whether the city continues to clean up. About the general dirtiness of the downtown and other areas: it's true as Pericles said that the economic crash created the cartoneros who are largely responsible for the squalor, especially in the downtown. Graffiti, though, wa shere in the 1990's. What bothers me is how just leave it there, including swastikas. They just leave the swastikas there. It's incredible. To resolve the trash issue the cartoneros will have to be prohibited. It's a dirty and dangerous job. The city should help these poor people.
 

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"jedard" said:
What a beuatiful country this is. But wait, who is that person who is destroying it?
Well what do you know, its the Argtentine people themselves. Everywhere one goes you see these pigs throwing there garbage on the ground, on the streets, out the back windows of their homes. These Argentines have no disgrace about this. hell just throw it on the sidewalks, son, thats what mom and dad do.
Now wait a moment, please don't let and tourist get caught doing this, right!
These people are SLOBS! They should all be kicked in the ass and scolded like a little child. What a mess they have made of the roads, streams, rivers parks. And then they have there gall darn dogs shi--i-g everywhere. Is this safe or what?
I don't complain and I love this county but it is going down the drain everyday with the blessing of the government. The human road kill. is also supported by the government,2nd only to Russia in the world.
It seems these people have not heard of the words, clean environment.
oink oink oink..........
as quoted by Mr Right from Canada Jedard.
Dude Jedard why dont you fight some more important causes in Argentina instead of attacking others who disagree with you.
You know very little about Argentina or Argentines when you say that people are dirty because dude Jedard I have lived here many more years than you and have not noticed this characteristic of the inhabitants.
I have lived in Santa Cruz and have visited all the southern Provinces which are absolutely Pristine . I have also visited most cities in Argentina and most are clean and some like Mendoza. Cordoba and Bariloche are exceptionally clean.
As much as I will critisize Argentina the way you have described the country and the people is completely off the mark..
 

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Soory Mr. Ramon,
You need to learn to read and tell things like they are. Money talks and bullshit walks. As for those who have a financial interest, rather for themselves, and they know who they are, and why they have to resort to BS.,
Yes I am a CDN and proud of it. We tell it like it is so Mr. Ramon, go talk to someone who really cares about this problem. Good luck on that one. As for me, there are no battles to be fought, as for for the expats they could do alot more for themselves but they just talk, like you.
I am married to an Argentine who is 63 and knows more about this country than any of you.. She agrees with me and does her own thing about keeping this country clean. But for every bottle she picks up a 100 are thrown down 5 minutes later somewhere.
over and out bub. by the way why do you keep it a secret where you hail from Bub.
 

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What a beuatiful country Canada is. But wait, who is that person who is destroying it?

Well what do you know, its the Canadian people themselves. Everywhere one goes you see these pigs throwing there garbage on the ground, on the streets, out the back windows of their homes. These Canadians have no disgrace about this. hell just throw it on the sidewalks, son, thats what mom and dad do.

Now wait a moment, please don't let and tourist get caught doing this, right!

These Canadian people are SLOBS! They should all be kicked in the ass and scolded like a little child. What a mess the Canadians have made of the roads, streams, rivers parks. And then they have there gall darn dogs shi--i-g everywhere. Is this safe or what?

I don't complain and I love Canada but it is going down the drain everyday with the blessing of the government. The human road kill. is also supported by the government,2nd only to Russia in the world.

It seems these Canadian people have not heard of the words, clean environment.

oink oink oink..........
 

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There is NO garbage problem in Buenos Aires.
The cartoneros know what they need to do to properly handle bagged trash left infront of buildings, the trash collectors are thorough about picking up trash- no spilling or anything and people would not dream of littering the streets of this beautiful city.
There is no place like BsAs. It is so perfect and so clean. All the buildings are well kept and maintained, the street sweepers are cleaning constantly - it is the best place on earth. I like this city because there is nothing dirty about it. 2008 will even bring better greener and whiter environment for us all. Basura is such a dirty word and it does not have any relevance to Buenos Aires - Clean Air, right? Right.
 

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I would just like to know what planet you are on because you are definitely in your own little bubble.
Among many things....you say bathrooms are so clean and pristine and people are well kept and neat in appearance.
First of all, 99% of men's bathrooms in Bs As are like sewers in Calcutta. They never clean them, they smell like urine and there is NEVER both paper towels and soap to clean your hands...its always one or the other.
As far as the Argentines being so clean---the large part look very untidy and dirty. Its a game here for men to have the dirtiest looking hair in the world and never brush it. Guess thats Argentine fashion. Go to Washington, DC or NYC and you see alot of neat, well-dressed people who have taken at least one shower this week..
 

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I have visited literally 100s of restaurants here from San Telmo to the Provinces and have never encountered this dirtiness professed by some. I have attended many fuctions here with Argentine People and find the men and especially the Women to be well groomed. I have been to weddings here and have attended over 100 group functioms and I very rarely have encountered a smelly dirty person.
I am sure that most people who live here will agree with me that the Argentinian people are a well groomed bunch.
 

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Jedard, you disgust me. Not because of "what" you say, but rather "the manner" in which you express your ideas. I don’t care how argentine your wife is.


Matty, your sarcasm is getting boring. Try something else to get a laugh from the rest of the expatriates.


Rmartinbuenosaires, hair is obviously very important to you. I couldn’t expect anything else from such a shallow, superficial person as yourself.


Fact: Argentina is a third world country.


Fact: Expats live in Argentina, so there must be a reason why they decide to stay.


Fact: Expatriates tend to compare Bs As to New York, DC, Miami, LA, San Francisco, which just happen to be some of the nicest cities in the U.S. Why don’t you compare Bs As to specific parts of these cities (NE or SE DC, Compton in LA, certain parts of Brooklyn, the Bronx, Harlem NY, Little Havana in Miami, has anybody been to San Francisco and seen how many homeless people there are?), or other cities, such as Detroit, New Orleans -before and after Katrina-. The point is that Buenos Aires as other cities in the US, has its flaws, with the only difference being that Buenos Aires is in a third world country as Argentina. if you want US or Canadian standards, then you should stay in the US or Canada.
 
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