Belle Epoque Of Gran Argentina

[Rich One]

the money from futbol goes to AFA, not to argentine government, not to Futbol para todos. Futbol para todos is an expense to this government, they use every peoples money to buy the rights to provide a free service. In fact, they took away the bussiness Clarin had and made it accesible for everyone. The government PAYS, to have this program, how can someone get profit with this, since there is no advertising?

I DID say AFA not Government however it's the Government function to supervise and audit our funds given to AFA.

 

[Ries]

I fail to understand the point the OP is trying to make-
The original "Belle Epoque" of Argentina included rampant inflation, frequent recessions, and money hidden under mattresses.
For instance, there was the peso devaluation of 1839, when the peso lost 66% of its value.
Or, the default of 1890.
Then, the post WW1 recession.

in short, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[Matiasba]

I fail to understand the point the OP is trying to make-
The original "Belle Epoque" of Argentina included rampant inflation, frequent recessions, and money hidden under mattresses.
For instance, there was the peso devaluation of 1839, when the peso lost 66% of its value.
Or, the default of 1890.
Then, the post WW1 recession.

in short, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

The real decadence of Argentina began in 1970s, with the dictatorship mainly. Lots of analysts say this, the bases of the current Argentina were settled in that time. If there had been no dictatorship, today Argentina would be a much better country, something like Spain, or Czeck Repubic, or Poland. It was the first time in the history of this country that immigration was reverted, instead of recieving people from other countries (last time Spaniards came, in 1950s) we expelled people, the first wave of our history, to Mexico (the origin of the argenmex) and to Spain, who was very very similar to Argentina in lots of social and economic indicators. The second big wave was in 1989 and the third one in 2001.

 

[Matt84]

I I concede that the military dictatorship of the 70s was indeed the lowest point in the history of Argentina (saving the Rosas/Rozas dictatorship), can you at least concede that Argentina would need to implement some free market reforms akin to the ones implemented in Poland during the last 30 years?

 

[PhilipDT]

I fail to understand the point the OP is trying to make

I feel like I understand about 1% of the points Hybrid Ambassador tries to make. I don't worry about it; just another peculiarity of the forum - one that is quite a bit less annoying than the Ayn Rand crap to boot.

I get the impression that HA would be a blast at any party, so I hope to see him at an expat meet-up if he ever makes it down here.

 

[wineguy999]

La decada Ganada

I thought it was la decada agrandada.

 

[GS_Dirtboy]

Jobs creation comes from small businesses and entrepreneurs. Most of those that I know personally have left, are in the process of leaving, or are deciding if they should leave Argentina. If I wanted to open a business in the US it would take me 3 - 6 months. That includes getting financing, finding a suitable location, negotiating the rental terms or buying the property, getting the licensing, establishing advertising and marketing, and hiring employees.

Starting and running a successful business in Argentina? How about you go fix climate change, first?

 

[ajoknoblauch]

the money from futbol goes to AFA, not to argentine government, not to Futbol para todos. Futbol para todos is an expense to this government, they use every peoples money to buy the rights to provide a free service. In fact, they took away the bussiness Clarin had and made it accesible for everyone. The government PAYS, to have this program, how can someone get profit with this, since there is no advertising?

Matías, you said it yourself. The money goes to their AFA buddies.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

The real decadence of Argentina began in 1970s, with the dictatorship mainly. Lots of analysts say this, the bases of the current Argentina were settled in that time. If there had been no dictatorship, today Argentina would be a much better country, something like Spain, or Czeck Repubic, or Poland. It was the first time in the history of this country that immigration was reverted, instead of recieving people from other countries (last time Spaniards came, in 1950s) we expelled people, the first wave of our history, to Mexico (the origin of the argenmex) and to Spain, who was very very similar to Argentina in lots of social and economic indicators. The second big wave was in 1989 and the third one in 2001.

Actually, Matías, it began with the milicos in the 1930s and accelerated with Peronism in the 1940s and after, when the bills finally came due.

 

[ajoknoblauch]

I I concede that the military dictatorship of the 70s was indeed the lowest point in the history of Argentina (saving the Rosas/Rozas dictatorship), can you at least concede that Argentina would need to implement some free market reforms akin to the ones implemented in Poland during the last 30 years?

Can't be done. "Neo-liberalism" is the enemy of the people.