Buenos Aires in the 1960s

[perry]

If you only look at the same rich barrios of Buenos Aires in which poverty is still hardly visible today, sure.

If you only look at the same rich barrios of Buenos Aires in which poverty is still hardly visible today, sure.

Im sorry but there were very little slums in Buenos Aires in the 1960s . There was always poverty but in general 90% lived comfortably . Today this figure is lucky if its 40% this is a huge sea change .
The 1960s were a comfortable era that most argentinians look back with huge nostalgia .

 

[Fdipo]

Thanks for providing some insight into how disconnected the upper class of BA is from the reality of the country and its history.

 

[Fdipo]

Sorry but I see a LOT of poverty in the heart of Recoleta, on the most elegant streets like Quintana and Avenue Alvear. Homeless people, people in rags begging for money. I don't remember this much visible poverty on these streets even during the 2001 crisis

Do you think because the government would use force to move poor people out of rich areas in 1960s, that means the poverty wasn't there? Watch the video and tell me that with a straight face.

 

[perry]

Thanks for providing some insight into how disconnected the upper class of BA is from the reality of the country and its history.

Number one the only person disconnected from reality is yourself . It is a historical fact that Buenos Aires in the 1960s had little poverty and one tenth of the slums of today . This is fact ! I understand that you wish to convince us with your radical left wing views that believe that Che Guevara was a demigod ( this is pure marketing to give gullible people something to fight for) . Left and right have both committed terrible atrocities in Argentina but lets not fall in the trap that the left is perfect when they also have a bloody history in Argentina as they have had in Russia . Cuba , Venezuela and many more countries .

 

[Fdipo]

Please look up 'urbanisation' and educate yourself. It's easy to have less slums when 1) the government actively sent in the police and military to clear them and 2) the same poor people who live in slums to day just lived in places other than Buenos Aires. Yes, there's more to the country than just San Isidro, Belgrano, Nuñez and Palermo.

Guess what popped up in these perfect 60s? Villa 31.

 

[perry]

Please look up 'urbanisation' and educate yourself. It's easy to have less slums when 1) the government actively sent in the police and military to clear them and 2) the same poor people who live in slums to day just lived in places other than Buenos Aires. Yes, there's more to the country than just San Isidro, Belgrano, Nuñez and Palermo.

And your point is ? Why do we not all move to Villa 31 as to experience the real Argentina ? Just because most people strive to live in nice neighbourhoods does this make them a greedy capitalist upper class snob .

I have found that in these rich neighbourhoods there are good and bad people like everywhere else in the world . I find that this class divide in Argentina very sad as this is how civil wars start and this suits the powers to be as to divide and conquer . For me left and right can be as bad as one another it depends on the government of the day and if they care about their people .

In 1963 the president of the time was Arturo Umberto Illia considered the best president ever by most Argentinians due to his honesty and lack of corruption .
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arturo_Umberto_Illia

 

[Fdipo]

considered the best president ever by most Argentinians

There's really no way to reply to such a ridiculous statement. You live in the country of Peron ffs.

 

[perry]

There's really no way to reply to such a ridiculous statement. You live in the country of Peron ffs.

So many people hated Peron but nearly everyone respected Arturo Umberto Illia . Just because someone is well known as was Juan Peron does not mean that he did not cause huge divisions in Argentinian society. I have mixed feelings about his legacy but admire his tenacity and charisma
He was banned to visit Argentina for a long time and was allowed back in the early 1970s but he died soon after putting the go go dancer from Panama in power the first female president ever elected in the world .

 

[sergio]

Please look up 'urbanisation' and educate yourself. It's easy to have less slums when 1) the government actively sent in the police and military to clear them and 2) the same poor people who live in slums to day just lived in places other than Buenos Aires. Yes, there's more to the country than just San Isidro, Belgrano, Nuñez and Palermo.

Guess what popped up in these perfect 60s? Villa 31.

Didn't urbanisation occur long before the 1960s? I thought that masses of people had left the northern provinces in pervious decades. Surely the flow of poor people to the capital had to do with failed government policy and corruption. There isn't any doubt that there has always been poverty in Argentina - and it was poverty and the neglect of the poor by an oligarchical class that brought Peron to power in the first place. Nevertheless, your assertion that poverty is not visible in the 'good' neighborhoods is not correct. You don't have to go to villa 31 to see it. I see it all the time and it really has grown worse. Were you here in 2001 and throughout the 'crisis' years? Conditions were appalling but I really think there are now more homeless people on the streets of Recoleta then there were then.

 

[Ries]

The truth is Villa 31 was established in the thirties. And waves of poor people have lived there, starting with mostly Italian immigrants, then rural argentines from the provincias, and, now, mostly immigrants. The existence of the Villas Miserias has gone on for almost 100 years. They existed in the sixties, and they exist today. But unlike the homeless in the USA, who sleep on the street, the residents of the Villas actually can build, own, and sell their homes. Poverty has always existed in Argentina.