Cristina lost a Friend today

[dani28]

are you sure that this photo actually represents something and or is legit? A few weeks ago when she was in France, Cristina was hysterical to the point of screaming, about having her photo taken with Sarkozy, and then later used that very same photo to speak about her ¨important negotiations with France¨ on her Twitter and Facebook......... I guess if my 3 year old niece is in Disney World and wants her photo taken with Mickey Mouse to brag to the others back home in the nursery that she is ¨close friends¨ with the famous Mouse, then so be it.

 

[AlfajorEfi]

Is it just me, or did he look just like Gene Simmons?!

 

[StevePalermo]

Oh gee and I didn't know that. Maybe while your digging up photos you can dig up some shots of PanAm 103????? Start digging

Why? The Libyans were fitted up by the CIA and there were plenty of other suspects. I don't want to derail the thread but don't take it for granted that the Libyans did it.

 

[ghost]

I'll do it if you can dig up some photos of Iran Air Flight 655. CIA reports suggest that the bombing of Flight 103 was in retaliation for the bombing of Iran Air Flight 655, which Iran still says the United States shot down intentionally. As per usual, a lot of this stuff is more murky than it seems with both sides throwing around the blame for a lot of different incidents.

Gaddafi would still be in power if he had been able to keep protests under control, and, most importantly, keep that oil spigot open. As one commentator put it (can't remember his name), do you think that NATO would have gone after Gaddafi if the country's prime export were broccoli? Isn't it peculiar that European countries led the way, which just happen to be the main beneficiaries of Libyan oil? Fighting wars solely for human rights makes good press, but it's not good policy. There's no economic/political benefit in invading Somalia, Zimbabwe, and a host of other countries. If it's not politically or economically advantageous, why bother? It's the sad reality of a system that values cost and profit more than anything else.

Your point about oil and profit is correct. However, Qaddafi put himself on the wrong side of "Arab Spring" and opened the door to his own demise. After 42 years of living under the rule of a wing nut like MG [Q][?] the Libyan people deserve their share of the "profit" and a chance to join in and contribute to what ever comes of these new found freedoms. If the price of progress and freedom is oil then at least they can determine their public share.
What comes from those choices remains undefined.

 

[French jurist]

Yop, the true story behind the Lockerbie bombing seems to be a bit more complex :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Gauci

Anyway, they blew up a French plane also : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTA_Flight_772

Nobody will cry over the death of this dictator but it's really too bad he can't talk now :
- Financing of a few political campaigns (strong suspicions he did so in France, likely in other countries as well)
- The "bunga-bunga" sexual parties with his friend Berlusconi and minor prostitutes (for some of them)
- Probably there are other stories in the Anglo-Saxon world as well

A few occidental politicians are very likely happy to know he's dead...

 

[ghost]

Why? The Libyans were fitted up by the CIA and there were plenty of other suspects. I don't want to derail the thread but don't take it for granted that the Libyans did it.

Yes, maybe. There are some on this board that will claim that the CIA is responsible for everything and anything, revolutions, earthquakes, tsunamis and coups on a world wide basis.
Frankly they are just not that effective. But it is impressive that they have been able to generate and perpetuate this omnipotent image.
After all, image is more potent than reality.

 

[French jurist]

Yes, maybe. There are some on this board that will claim that the CIA is responsible for everything and anything, revolutions, earthquakes, tsunamis and coups on a world wide basis.
Frankly they are just not that effective. But it is impressive that they have been able to generate and perpetuate this omnipotent image.
After all, image is more potent than reality.

Indeed, it's not that easy for people to learn how to think by themselves, aside of dogmatisms/partisanism, appreciate different opinions/approaches.

Cliches are much easier to deal with

 

[Matt84]

alors here's a different approach.
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/

TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18, 2011
Where's Muammar?


[48-hour update: Muammar is in his home town of Sirte, dead. He died like a warrior, surrounded by his loyal followers, who fought on against insurmountable odds until the very end. He is survived by his enemies, who, if they are lucky, will die the death of cowards—in a hospital bed, fussed over by money-grubbing physicians. And if they are not so lucky—imagination runs wild. Being the scum of the earth is not illegal, but there is most likely a limit to how long people will be willing to go on believing that. I raise my glass of tea to Muammar, a unique and colorful dictator who made other bloodthirsty tyrants look like mice.]

It's been over seven months ago that I commented on the fact that not all is going according to plan in Libya. The Langley, Virginia chapter of Al Qaeda had decided to overthrow Muammar, for all the obvious reasons. The British jumped on board, mostly because they are British. The French jumped on board because Muammar had put up some communications satellites that were undercutting France Telecom's ability to gouge and fleece poor Africans. Everyone else was disgusted.

They've been overthrowing him continually for seven months now. At this point, he appears to be close to 90% overthrown, but the remaining 10% are proving to be slow going. It remains to be seen whether “Operation Suck 'Em Dry” will go according to plan, or whether it will result in pipelines and installations being blown up sporadically for years on end, as it has in every other oil-producing place that's been bombed into submission, invaded and ransacked.

Also, nobody seems to know where Muammar is. Now, some other overthrown dictator might be feeling low around now, but that's not our Muammar! My feeling is that, wherever he is, he is probably having a good time. But seeing as even his most stalwart supporters are ready to concede that his return to power in Libya is, at this point, unlikely, I thought it would be a good time to share with the world my Muammar scrapbook.

And if he is in your area, please be hospitable. He is not a bad sort. Things got out of hand; he didn't mean it; he is sorry. All he ever wanted was to be a non-pro-Western Arab dictator, for a change. Who can blame him for that?


With Mr. 0

Being polite to some sleazebag

With Vova

With... WUGGHGHGH!

 

[Napoleon]

I can't remember if the Telegraph in the UK is a publication that you can trust or not, but here's an article that seems to detail US, UK, & French man power and/or air power trying to hunt Muammar (sp?) and kill him. Not "advise" Libyan citizens in their quest for democracy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...bed-by-drone-flown-by-pilot-in-Las-Vegas.html

 

[glasgowjohn]

I can't remember if the Telegraph in the UK is a publication that you can trust or not, but here's an article that seems to detail US, UK, & French man power and/or air power trying to hunt Muammar (sp?) and kill him. Not "advise" Libyan citizens in their quest for democracy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...bed-by-drone-flown-by-pilot-in-Las-Vegas.html

The Telegraph is a serious newspaper aligned with the present UK government . Its foreign coverage is widely respected by the community at large , although some Labour party supporters may disagree with certain viewpoints.

Its sports coverage is recognized as excellent by almost everyone