Electricity Shortcuts

[CarryOn]

There was a pool last year in one of the papers asking Argentinos what they thought of corruption. I can't remember the details, but basically the answer came back that a near majority of the people were OK with corruption as long as it benefited them...

I seem to recall reading the same article, and not to split hairs but I think it was a little more nuanced, that a majority of Argentines were tolerant of some corruption (ie: private enrichment of elected officials [influence-peddling] as opposed to siphoning public funds) as long as the government was fulfilling "the public good" (or at least their perception of it). A slippery slope, but there you have it.

 

[toongeorges]

Cristina is making sure no one ever forgets Nestor: http://ponelenestoratodo.tumblr.com/

You know you can see Nestor's shoes and pen in the Museo del Bicentenario? And pictures from Nestor's and Cristina's youth. All very significant in the 200 years history of Argentina. (Sorry if it is a bit off topic)

 

[Bajo_cero2]

I don't get this idea that somehow Argentina is so much more corrupt than almost anywhere else.

Well, in the US they institucionalized the corruption. They call it lobby.

 

[ElQueso]

Well, in the US they institucionalized the corruption. They call it lobby.

I don't know that the idea of lobbies are US only, but you're right about lobbies in the US.

 

[Girino]

I seem to recall reading the same article, and not to split hairs but I think it was a little more nuanced, that a majority of Argentines were tolerant of some corruption (ie: private enrichment of elected officials [influence-peddling] as opposed to siphoning public funds) as long as the government was fulfilling "the public good" (or at least their perception of it). A slippery slope, but there you have it.

In Italy, 20 years ago, corruption used to be a democratic tool, just like here. Now you need to have connections even for that!

 

[ArielFabian]

Capitanich defended the government’s decision to seize control of the Focede investment benefit Edenor and Edesur saying the electricity companies have proved their “incompetence” to carry out extension and improvement work of the power network:

http://www.buenosair...nce--capitanich

According to Capitanich Edenor and Edesur are responsible. Did the last 10 years government realize that the power network was not robust? Why?

If the major problem was that the power network was not mantained during the last 10 years because of corruption, no controls, etc. What will be solved with a the new Atucha III when the major issue is in the power network that is not prepared to resist the summer high tensions and cannot be replaced soon even with a major investment? Power network cannot even support existing capacity.

I have been 35 days without electricity during the last summer; and many other people have been affected too. Yes, 35 days. Something I cannot deny is the social justice, we were all equals in general, almost nobody had electricity; needless to say that Capitanich said that only a minor percentage of the users had been affected when even "la casa rosada" had no electricity, and their power generators did not work either.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Once they took control, it is going to be solved.
The big issue are the contracts they inherit from Menem that didn t allow proper control.

 

[thorsten]

Your optimism stems from the fact that they already showed their expertise in the energy sector with Atucho II, which is just a couple of years late and a few $/KWh more expensive compared to other nuclear plants?

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Well, the list is long...
What about the trains? For first time since Perón 40') we have new trains.
YPF? They started to invest and they discovered several new sources, even conventional gas this week.
The way the neutralized the Imf.
The external Debt strategy (to grow to be able to pay) (to pay with a cut) (the agreement with the club de París without the ifm).
They do invest and the only thing necesary is to invest in proper lines.
You might not like them but their skill is to make things happens (most of politicians here are pure bla).

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Duplicated post.