Expat Position Regarding Politics

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

I pay tax, have permanent residency and am eligible to vote in city and national elections.

As such, I'll form my views and express them when challenged.

As has been pointed out - eligible is incorrect. Obliged is the right term.

 

[sesamosinsal]

As has been pointed out - eligible is incorrect. Obliged is the right term.

Permanent residents can't vote in the national elections: http://www.fiscaldemesa.com.ar/2007/07/28/%C2%BFpueden-votar-los-extranjeros-en-las-elecciones-nacionales/

But you still pay taxes to the national government. Anyone who lives here does, resident or not.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

true, no idea why i typed national...city, governor, legislator and intendente only.

 

[Johnny]

Alexis de Tocqueville would not agree with the OP. A view from afar can be very enlightening, though not infrequently they are also a product of ignorance and bias.

 

[ARbound]

This has to be the edgiest post I've seen in awhile.

Someone posts on an EXPAT community that expats shouldn't talk about politics and current events where they live? I call bullshit. You don't get to tell someone this just because you dislike their opinion or it varies from your own. Argentina is not perfect, but this isn't 1984, its not a crime to disagree with or comment on the state of affairs.

Also, as others said, I'm willing to bet you have made comments about US and UK politics, at least I hope so, its 2015 and part of being a global citizen is forming opinions about other nations internal affairs. By this standard you'd ban people from criticizing ISIS because we aren't Iraqi or Syrian.

 

[khairyexpat]

For me it all depends on how you define Expat vs. Immigrant.

I don´t know how technically you can define an expat, but I don´t feel that I´m an immigrant here, even if I had to pay taxes or were obliged to vote or forced to take Residency or Citizenship. I´m not starting a new life here. I´m not building a career or starting a new family here, therefore I feel like I´m only a guest here. Argentina is my retirement home, but it´s NOT HOME.

http://baexpats.org/...try#entry276165

 

[AmigoArtistico]

OP,

If the 88 in your name is your year of birth, maybe that (your young age) mitigates some of the idiocy of what you said. Some of it.

In any case, if this is how you truly feel, perhaps you would find yourself much more comfortable in one of these countries:

http://www.theriches...ve-governments/

Of course, the Kirchner government is trying to move Argentina in this direction, but if you have some misplaced moral, social, or other type of objection from trying to do all you can to keep that from happening, then when people ask your opinion, just tell them, "Esta boca no es mia."

If you're impatient and you want to see an advanced version of the kirchnerista vision of the future right now, go visit Venezuela.

But thanks for the misguided thoughts.

 

[ariel81]

In my view an expat, as a guest, should keep out of politics. This means taking no stand for or against the govt., for or against any cause in the country in which you're a guest. Let the locals decide their own fate. I'm here in part because I want to forget about politics in this sense.

I think it's dishonorable to go into someone's house and start criticizing how they do things.

This goes for expats whether they're on a tourist visa or you have citizenship or whatever. You're not Argentinian so stay out of Argentinian politics.

On the other hand, I don't understand why there are some posters here (like Bajo cero or cabrera before) who are Argies who go on an expat forum to lecture expats about how they shouldn't complain about Argentina. I think it's OK to e.g., complain about food or prices, that's different. (It's also a problem with a solution, that is, there ARE some places where you can eat good food and I'm trying to find them.) Anyway, I don't understand this, as I can't imagine doing the equivalent, e.g., finding some Jap expat forum in the US and logging on to rant at people there about how "Oh you want to find the same kind of fish or pr0n you find in Japan! In civilized countries you can't find that product so bugqger off!" lol Who does that? Can you imagine even registering on a forum in Philly to lecture Japanese expats?


On this note I say, the best places to get coffee so far for me are Establecimiento de Cafe and certain nondescript restaurants (not cafes) where for some weird reason they happen to make a good cup of coffee.

It doesnt bother me,expats compaining,you pay taxes here,you have the right to complain,and in my case,I agree with many criticism of the expats in this forum about this country,except with the food,that I sharply disagree.

 

[Dublin2BuenosAires]

"Che, se come bien en Argentina, no!"

I have to bite my lip every time I hear it.

 

[ariel81]

"Che, se come bien en Argentina, no!"

I have to bite my lip every time I hear it.

Well,it is your opinion,other may disagree
I agree about the lack of choices,but what we have,in my opinion,is good,not as good,as it used to be,but fair.
And frankly,if a french or spaniard complains about food,I understand,but an american...come on,most of the food you eat there,is garbage forbidden in europe