Giving birth in argentina - Will my child be forcefully vaccinated?

[Quilombo]

So yeah, for those of you who care about basic human rights and medical freedom, and want to give birth abroad, unluckily Argentina is not for you. What a sad state of affairs.

Ok, cool, don't let the door hit you where the lord split you

 

[El_fuego]

i had no idea about such evil. and what if you say, sorry no doc, and take YOUR baby, out of their hands / don't permit them to take YOUR baby? what if then? going to arrest you? could you imagine those creeps screaming "GIVE US THE BABY OR WE WILL ARREST YOU"

 

[GMan_27]

For any of you wondering whether the newborn children of non resident tourists, coming over to Argentina to give birth, are safe from forced vaccination under draconian Argentinian law 27,491, the short answer is NO.

After 6 different private hospitals gave me no or evasive answers, I've took it upon myself to directly consult the government about this.

Ley 27,491 specifically states, under article 1º: b) Obligatoriedad para los habitantes de aplicarse las vacunas

One might logically think non-residents would be safe from its provisions. Except it seems the ministry of disease, has a curious definition of habitant, which includes ANYONE in the territory regardless of immigration status (see attachment).

Also notice that vaccination is not only mandatory, but FORCEFULLY ADMINISTERED AT BIRTH by solert hospital administrators.
Locals in non compliance with the intrusive and extensive vaccination calendar find it impossible to obtain identity documents and certificates from local government offices. Not even China goes so far in their fanatical loyalty to the pharmaceutical lobby.

So yeah, for those of you who care about basic human rights and medical freedom, and want to give birth abroad, unluckily Argentina is not for you. What a sad state of affairs.

One individual, no matter how intelligent, cannot know everything. You can be informed, but when it comes down to it, you can never know everything at the level an expert knows things. You have to trust people who know better than you. If you are unsure, then get a second opinion from another expert. There are excellent doctors here in Argentina who know what they are talking about. Listen to qualified experts when they talk. Understand the scientific methodology. Be careful of people who talk in absolutes or who want to burn everything and restart again, or who call for violence.

In all honesty, it sounds like you have been duped by conspiracy theories, either spread by loved ones or by the media you consume. In reality, though, vaccines are safe. They are far safer than they used to be as well. They are so successful that they have actually been a victim of their own success. You don't want to vaccinate your kids because you don't see the threat any more.

Another point is that vaccines are not just for you, but for all those around you who can't be vaccinated. You are protecting the kids and sick adults who are too sick to get vaccines. This is not just an individual decision any more. It's for society as a whole. This is why in some places, the decision is not in your hands, and it's easy to see why.

The best beginning you can give your child in life is that of health. If you or a loved one plan on getting pregnant, then I suggest you get the MMR vaccine before so that you don't contract Rubella during pregnancy and give your child a permanent disability before they are even out of the womb. Then following a vaccine regimen given to you by a qualified doctor.

Best of luck. Hope it works out.

 

[El_fuego]

One individual, no matter how intelligent, cannot know everything. You can be informed, but when it comes down to it, you can never know everything at the level an expert knows things. You have to trust people who know better than you. If you are unsure, then get a second opinion from another expert. There are excellent doctors here in Argentina who know what they are talking about. Listen to qualified experts when they talk. Understand the scientific methodology. Be careful of people who talk in absolutes or who want to burn everything and restart again, or who call for violence.

In all honesty, it sounds like you have been duped by conspiracy theories, either spread by loved ones or by the media you consume. In reality, though, vaccines are safe. They are far safer than they used to be as well. They are so successful that they have actually been a victim of their own success. You don't want to vaccinate your kids because you don't see the threat any more.

Another point is that vaccines are not just for you, but for all those around you who can't be vaccinated. You are protecting the kids and sick adults who are too sick to get vaccines. This is not just an individual decision any more. It's for society as a whole. This is why in some places, the decision is not in your hands, and it's easy to see why.

The best beginning you can give your child in life is that of health. If you or a loved one plan on getting pregnant, then I suggest you get the MMR vaccine before so that you don't contract Rubella during pregnancy and give your child a permanent disability before they are even out of the womb. Then following a vaccine regimen given to you by a qualified doctor.

Best of luck. Hope it works out.

save it , not worth reading your crap, if it’s working for u that’s great , don’t force it on me, my body my choice

 

[GMan_27]

save it , not worth reading your crap, if it’s working for u that’s great , don’t force it on me, my body my choice

Mala suerte to you then too.

 

[elhombresinnombre]

So.... "Nonresident tourists, coming over to Argentina to give birth" so the parents can obtain shiny new Argentine passports. Isn't that just another form of child exploitation?

The moral high ground is thataway >>>>>

 

[LuckyLuke]

Mala suerte to you then too.

Don't waste your breath Gman...my sister is anti-vax and it always devolves into the same discussion:

"Oh my god I can't believe you read (insert your discredited source), you're such a (insert ad hominem attack), you need to study (insert my valid source) in you want the TRUTH".

Most are just parrots, shopping for biases because they have a phobia of doctors, misunderstanding of epidemics, and zero regard for societal sacrifice.

 

[nikad]

People living in Argentina, permanently, temporarily, legally and illegally are subject to the same rights and obligations as it is stated by the National Constitution. It is always an option to give birth somewhere else.

 

[nikad]

Vaccination is meant to protect large groups of population, not for your own benefit. Societies do not survive illness based on individual actions but collective efforts. Those against vaccines promoting their conspiracy theories, despise humankind. There is a reason why people live longer lives when they have access to good food, water and medical assistance, prevention is the foundation of good health.