Heh, Reminds me of Obama!

Well, seeing that both of them act like they're doing everybody a favor by being president of their respective countries, both pout, both whine, both look and seem tired of it all, both are always in campaign mode, both don't know the first thing about economics, both blame the opposition for whatever the hell goes wrong and never talk about fixing it and both take credit for seemingly good things that they had nothing whatsoever to do with...I'm gonna say I surely can compare the two!
 
Lol. That's hilarious! You criticize Obama and you get called names. Hm! Very original. And Tea Bagger? What are you five?

And actually no, I am not a Republican. Or a Democrat. I was born and lived all my life in the middle east (lucky me!) and so never held on to a party or its ideas as if it was religion.

To soothe your Obama-worshipping heart (hehe!), I was against Bush's idiotic policies too. TARP? AYFKM!? Invasion of Iraq? No freakin' way! I was in Saudi Arabia during the first gulf war, that war hungry and blood thirsty maniac, Saddam, should have been punished but it was no reason for American troops to waste their life on. He wasn't worth that much! But what has happened now? American involvement has replacement one blood thirsty idiot in a palace with a million blood thirsty morons on the streets of Iraq. I was in Dubai before I left for here, and all the Iraqi refugees that I came across were pissed off, not because America invaded their country, they were initially supportive of the move, but because when Saddam was in power, all they had to worry about was their government and not their own freakin' neighbors. American troops should have never set foot on Iraq. Bush should have left that one alone, way alone!

Now, Obama, he is no different though. Except he thinks he is above everybody else. Going to Libya without congressional approval? You have got to be out of your f***ing mind to do that. The president only has the authority to single-handedly go to war if the national security of the United States is compromised. With Libya, eh, not so much! Contrary to popular belief, UN resolutions are NOT internationally binding laws. Those are just resolutions. Sort of like, "This is what we'd like to happen!". No international law regulates where American troops should be sent to war next. Oh and by the way, this includes this idiot sending advisers to Uganda!

Anyway, the above is just a brief comparison between the two idiots that last occupied the White House.

I could go on but you don't sound like the kind of person who would be willing to read without going into a "oh but you are this and you are that!" kind of a stupid argument.

As for your link, uh, it doesn't work! Maybe Obama got pissed at what they wrote, pouted to his AttackWatch people and they had the Atlantic take the article off?
 
Nico,
Dont let them get you fired up over a tea bagger comment. Better a tea bagger than the tea baggee. ;) And, I agree, it is does kinda remind you of Obama. CFK isnt liked much by most, just as Obama isnt.
 
hannstew said:
Nico,
Dont let them get you fired up over a tea bagger comment. Better a tea bagger than the tea baggee. ;) And, I agree, it is does kinda remind you of Obama. CFK isnt liked much by most, just as Obama isnt.
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Tea baggae...Lol! Good one!

To me the "tea bagger" comment is no different than any idiot going, "Oh Obama smokes crack because he repeatedly touches his nose!" They are both moronic, childish comments that basically go nowhere.
 
Nicoenarg, I said simply that your comment sounded like Republican or Tea Party anti-Obama rhetoric, period. In no way was it meant to imply that you are a Republican or have any other US political party affiliation. I sent the link as a friendly gesture, nothing else, particularly since the article is rather comprehensive about Obama, period. Your rant and rave responses have negated any semblance of rational discourse. Case closed, pal.
 
nicoenarg said:
Lol. That's hilarious! You criticize Obama and you get called names. Hm! Very original. And Tea Bagger? What are you five?
And actually no, I am not a Republican. Or a Democrat. I was born and lived all my life in the middle east (lucky me!) and so never held on to a party or its ideas as if it was religion.
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Suggesting someone is a Republican (or a Tea Party supporter) is not "calling someone a name" as that expression is commonly understood by English speaking people. Republican candidates may be falling over each other to demonstrate who is the biggest crackpot, but events have not deteriorated to the level that the word "Republican" is a "name." Yet.

Your original post included a negative comment on Obama comparing him to CFK in a piece critical of CFK. It isn't juvenile ("What are you five") to suggest someone may a member of a particular political group based on such a negative comment. It's simply an observation on the comment, one many would interpret as not unreasonable. In any case there is no basis for you to ridicule JoeGillis. For example, just based on his suggestion that you are a Republican, how does it follow that JoeGillis "sounds like the kind of person who would {not} be willing to read without going into a 'oh but you are this and you are that!' kind of a stupid argument." Other than his reasonable observation that your anti-Obama comment possibly defined you as a Republican-TBagger, on what do you base your asssertion JoeGillis would make stupid arguments. There is no basis for your attack on JoeGillis as childish or stupid simply because he said you sound like a Republican or tea bagger - whether or not you are.

Be that as it may, while I agree with you that Bush's foreign policy was a disaster, it is an issue inapposite to this thread as you defined it- a comparison between CFK and Obama. Your "brief comparison between the two idiots that last occupied the White House" was not incisive or relevant. We get that you are opposed to war and especially to US war mongering. So am I. I will bet so is Joe Gillis.

I do not agree with your description of Obama as someone who believes he is above everyone else. Even though it is just a personality trait, not descriptive of his policies, you make no case for it. You don"t cite any of his specfic actions to support your claim of CFK-like egoism except US action in Libya about which you include an erroneous statement relating to Presidential power to declare war (only Congress can declare war). The US, along with all of its allies and the majority of Arab and mid-east countries participated in the overthrow of Khadafi. Are you suggesting that because the US joined in that effort Obama acted like he was above everybody. On the contrary, it seems like he was just one of the crowd (assuming the decision to participate was his only - which I doubt). P.s. The US has been a lot less aggressive in its conduct towards Syria than the mideast bloc.
The original BA Herald article made the case that CFK thinks she is immensely popular and is doing the people a favor by continuing to adhere to certain policies (the "model") when, in fact, those failed policies are eroding her popular support. Your attempt to equate Obama with CFK would have made more sense if you spoke to that issue... whether Obama is losing popular support because of the failure of his policies. The attempt to dwell on personality traits without getting into the nitty gritty of foreign and domestic policy may be fun, but it isn't critical to an understanding of national or world politics. It brings to mind how many people vote based upon issues such as abortion , the death penalty, homosexual marriage, religious doctrine, etc when much more important issues of foreign and domestic policy get overlooked.
 
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