Help: Will I be denied entry to Argentina after ETA residency?

[RXA]

Tha

Please read this and tell us if the agent asked you to provide the any or all of the documentatlon required to qualify for temporary residency:


"Chinese citizens applying for temporary residency in Argentina must present a valid passport (with at least 6 months validity and two blank pages), a completed application form, 4x4cm color photos, proof of address, an apostilled criminal record check from their home country (and any country resided in for over a year, 3 years prior), and a declaration of no criminal history.

Key Documentation Required:
Valid Passport: Original and copy of a passport valid for at least six months.

Photos: Two (2) current 4x4 cm photos, color, white background.

Criminal Record Certificate: Apostilled or legalized criminal record check from China (and any other country of residence in the last 3 years) for applicants 16 or older.

Proof of Address: Document proving residence within the consular jurisdiction (e.g., utility bill).

Visa Application Form: Completed and signed.

Proof of Income/Economic Solvency: (For specific temporary categories, such as work or study).

Birth Certificate: Apostilled/legalized (often required for registration).

Marriage Certificate: (If applicable, apostilled/legalized)."




Important Notes for Chinese Citizens:
Visa-Free Entry Condition: Holders of Chinese passports with a valid U.S. B2 visa or a U.S. Green Card may enter Argentina without a visa for tourism/business (up to 30 days) using an Electronic Travel Authorization (AVE), but cannot usually change immigration status to residency with this, notes the Consulate General in Montreal and Consulate General in Houston.

Apostille Requirements: Documents from China must be legalized or apostilled to be recognized in Argentina.

Translations: All documents not in Spanish must be translated by a certified public translator."

Even though it is now possible for "holders of Chinese passports with a valid U.S. B2 visa or a U.S. Green Card (to) enter Argentina without a visa for tourism/business (up to 30 days) using an Electronic Travel Authorization (AVE), (they) cannot usually change immigration status to residency with this..."

I imagine that, in 2023, it would not have been possible for you to get temporary residency based on your entry status. Additionally, I am reasonably certain that leaving Argentina immediately after applying for temporary residency (even though you were represented by an "agent" would have made the rejection inevitable.

thank you very much for your input. Definitely the agent I found at that time is not professional enough. We gave them some of these documents but they are doing them in the correct way. The documents I gave them is in English. And they have not told us we cannot leave Argentina unless our residency is approved.

 

[RXA]

I seriously doubt that your stated desire "to visit Argentina as a tourist only" will carry much weight with migraciones. They have a file that shows that you actually applied for temporary residency while you were in Argentina and left the country within a few days.

I am reasonably certain that, in 2023, Migraciones required anyone who applied for temporary residency in Argentina to remain in the country at least until the precaria was granted. Your application was doomed the day you left. Migraciones would have seen this as soon as they started to review your application and that's when, perhaps for no other reason, they rejected your application.

Even if you had provided the "agent" with all of the required documents with the Apostille and the agent had them translated and legalized in Argentina, they should have informed you that you should not leave Argentina before the residency was approved.

I also think that you were very "lucky" that you were denied a tourist visa when you applied at "an Argentine consulate" before the requirement to get another 30 day visa changed. If you tried to return without knowing how migraciones had judged your application for residency during a five day stay, you would not have been prepared to deal as well with a denial of entry, which I believe you sould expect if you try to enter again as a tourist.

If you try to return as a tourist, it probably matter in the least if you have hotel bookings, proof of income, or a "strong" return ticket. Migraciones at the airport aren't going to be interested in your proof of income and probably won't even glance at any paperwork you try to present, even if it has the Apostille. As far as I know, those papers are only required by migraciones when processing a formal application for residency, and you've already done that.

All that being said, you might get lucky and encounter a sympathetic border official at EZE who lets you in, but are you willing to risk it? You might consider flying into Uruguay and entering Argentina by bus or ferry. At least that way you would only have to return to Uruguay if your entry into Argentina is denied.

And then you will likely spend more as a tourist in Uruguay than Argentina, but at least you won't have burned the money you paid on airfare.

PS: Perhaps the lawyer who posts often about these issues can tell you how long he thinks you will have to wait (if ever) until you can return to Argentina as a tourist.

Anyway now I am not quite interested in the residency of Argentina. I may consider the CBI for Argentina passport directly in the later time this year. But right now I am consider to do some tour in Argentina with my family so I am curious to know how risky is it for me to come to Argentina EZE airport. Will the custom make problem for us and deny our entry? Hope the lawyer can tell me. Thank you.

 

[steveinbsas]

I see that "the lawyer" did not reply to your question about returning with your family as tourists. Based on what happened today to the member known as vosos...

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...it looks like migraciones may now be far less tolerant of foreigners who have not been in full compliance with previous "rules and regulations" of the tourist visa.

Even if you never had a single ovestay, you have a recent history of being denied a tourist visa, and you've actually been told that, based on the fact that your application for temporary residency was rejected, the reason you could not be granted a tourist visa was that your purpose in returning in the future would not be regarded as a tourist.

I don't know how many years you would have to wait until you can reapply for residency, but I imagine that it will be múltiples of years. It would be great to learn that your lawyer was able to appeal the denial and that you will be able to or already have successfully reenterd Argentina. If that's the case, please let us know. If you didn't and don't reply, won't be the first time someone stopped posting because they didn't get the answer they wanted to hear.

As for CBI, it doesn't look like migraciones is processing them yet, but if and when they do, it will most likely require a lawyer who can properly represent those who want to go that route. I wish you luck in finding one who does a better job than the lawyer who presented your application for temporary residency.

 

[twoofeverything]

I see that "the lawyer" did not reply to your question about returning with your family as tourists. Based on what happened today to the member known as vosos...

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...it looks like migraciones may now be far less tolerant of foreigners who have not been in full compliance with previous "rules and regulations" of the tourist visa.

Even if you never had a single ovestay, you have a recent history of being denied a tourist visa, and you've actually been told that, based on the fact that your application for temporary residency was rejected, the reason you could not be granted a tourist visa was that your purpose in returning in the future would not be regarded as a tourist.

I don't know how many years you would have to wait until you can reapply for residency, but I imagine that it will be múltiples of years. It would be great to learn that your lawyer was able to appeal the denial and that you will be able to or already have successfully reenterd Argentina. If that's the case, please let us know. If you didn't and don't reply, won't be the first time someone stopped posting because they didn't get the answer they wanted to hear.

As for CBI, it doesn't look like migraciones is processing them yet, but if and when they do, it will most likely require a lawyer who can properly represent those who want to go that route. I wish you luck in finding one who does a better job than the lawyer who presented your application for temporary residency.

Actually, the tender for CBI was suspended a couple of weeks ago. Look up BowTied Mara's blog for all the details. It's an entertaining read.

 

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