How is the Argentinian economy not even in worse shape?

Why haven't things crashed, yet? My feeling is because businesses in Argentina have little to no debt, so it's easier to survive during hard times. Individials also have little to no debt. Americans. on the other hand, are top heavy with debt: car loans, students loans, credit card loans, mortgage loans, etc. Most Argentines are OK living with little; they can do without a flashy car, or expensive junk you just accumulate. I manage some apartments in California, and each unit has an enclosed garage to park a car. Do you think tenants do this? No, they park in the streets, and fill the garages with JUNK. And the junk stays there; nobody ever uses it; it's just stored. And then you have companies like Public Storage, where they rent small rooms so you can stash more junk. Americans are hoarders; go into any of my tenant's apartments, and you can hardly walk there's so much junk everywhere. Americans can't live without excess baggage; Argentines are more frugal, because of their own limitations. Thus, they can survive better when times are tough.
That's my explanation as to why things have not crashed, yet.
There is some truth to this - possessions are over rated and they keep a person a prisoner in a lot of ways. It's better to live life and be "light" with possessions. At least that is my preference. I'd rather have one or two nice things that I use than a bunch of junk that I drown in. Then simply spend money on living and enjoying life instead of keeping retailers in business.
 
There is some truth to this - possessions are over rated and they keep a person a prisoner in a lot of ways. It's better to live life and be "light" with possessions. At least that is my preference. I'd rather have one or two nice things that I use than a bunch of junk that I drown in. Then simply spend money on living and enjoying life instead of keeping retailers in business.

I strongly agree, particularly with your use of the verb "drown." It's taken me awhile, but I've finally figured out that what defines success and "wealth" is not always financial/material and cannot be quantified, nor should it be.

Not to sound too pie-in-the-sky / Pollyannaesque / Hippie-dippy (obviously any individual has to have their most basic needs met, like having enough for a stable roof over their head and food, etc... very sadly, this is not always the case here in Argentina and in so many places), but I personally feel that since I've come to that understanding, I've felt freer and better overall.

PS - "Health is wealth"!!!
 
Why haven't things crashed, yet? My feeling is because businesses in Argentina have little to no debt, so it's easier to survive during hard times. Individials also have little to no debt. Americans. on the other hand, are top heavy with debt: car loans, students loans, credit card loans, mortgage loans, etc. Most Argentines are OK living with little; they can do without a flashy car, or expensive junk you just accumulate. I manage some apartments in California, and each unit has an enclosed garage to park a car. Do you think tenants do this? No, they park in the streets, and fill the garages with JUNK. And the junk stays there; nobody ever uses it; it's just stored. And then you have companies like Public Storage, where they rent small rooms so you can stash more junk. Americans are hoarders; go into any of my tenant's apartments, and you can hardly walk there's so much junk everywhere. Americans can't live without excess baggage; Argentines are more frugal, because of their own limitations. Thus, they can survive better when times are tough.
That's my explanation as to why things have not crashed, yet.
The totalitarism arised in the 1930’ as a reaction to the Spanish flu. They are focus on the public health system, the salvoconduct system and on the emergency state. The US instead works like there is never, an emergency.
Argentine institutions are strongly influenced by totalitarism / socialism. So, it is natural that it works during a crisis. We have been in several crisis during life.
It is true, people has no debt. So, they use the credit card. The President cut by 1/3 the interest they were charging and the minimum payment is very low. Middle class survives this way.
Lower classes has the emergency help plus food in hand at Villas.
One thing expats choose to ignore is that a default is great for the interior economy because suddenly, there is a lot of money available, usd that the State can administrate.
 
Why haven't things crashed, yet? My feeling is because businesses in Argentina have little to no debt, so it's easier to survive during hard times. Individials also have little to no debt. Americans. on the other hand, are top heavy with debt: car loans, students loans, credit card loans, mortgage loans, etc. Most Argentines are OK living with little; they can do without a flashy car, or expensive junk you just accumulate. I manage some apartments in California, and each unit has an enclosed garage to park a car. Do you think tenants do this? No, they park in the streets, and fill the garages with JUNK. And the junk stays there; nobody ever uses it; it's just stored. And then you have companies like Public Storage, where they rent small rooms so you can stash more junk. Americans are hoarders; go into any of my tenant's apartments, and you can hardly walk there's so much junk everywhere. Americans can't live without excess baggage; Argentines are more frugal, because of their own limitations. Thus, they can survive better when times are tough.
That's my explanation as to why things have not crashed, yet.

That's most likely true that Argentine consumer debt is substantially lower than consumer debt in the US. Access to credit in Argentina is much more scarce even for businesses, so most businesses aren't loaded up on debt either. However, the government is highly indebted. In the Argentine economy the government is the glue that is holding everything together. They are a massive employer and subsidizer. The collapse begins when they are so broke that the only option left is to print and the peso becomes completely worthless. This is starting to happen now.

I do agree with you about how resilient the Argentine people can be during tough times. Shame that the political elites always put them in that position.
 
If Argentinians have no consumer debt why is payment in "cuotas" so pervasive? They even ask me at the grocery store if that is how I want to pay.
 
Average household debt at the moment is supposedly around A$120k-ish. This includes cuotas, utilities, rent etc.
Against an average monthly salary "SUELDO" of what?

My point being, it it really small compared to the average person in EE UU who is in really deep!
 
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