I am traumatized every time I go to the supermarket

[wineguy999]

I don't think there's more to her story.

Idealista shows there are only 488 (non-seasonal) apartments available for €1000 or less in a community where the median take home pay is €1,700 – €1,900....for a population of 3.4 million people. That's 1 affordable apartment per 7,377 residents.

Last I checked in May, Bumeran has the average salary in CABA per sector is $1.4M to $1.6M (excluding Mineria/Petroleo).

CABA had 2,130, 1 bedroom apartments under ARS $600,000 available for rent per Zonaprop.

With a population fo 3.6 million people, that's 1 affordable apartment for every 1,633 residents.

CABA has 4.5x greater supply of affordable housing than Madrid.

The horse is just about dead here, but...

Idealista is not the only source to find rentals in Madrid. There are three other websites that I know about, and surely many more that I don't. There are also agencies, other non-real estate centered websites, friends, co-workers, bulletin boards, etc. And, through other sources, better deals than those offered on Idealista can be found.

Lanick quite possibly hit the nail on the head. Was she working in black for much less than is common, or was she a legal resident?

€500-600 is around ⅓ of a monthly €1600-1800 take home pay. A significant amount to pay for rent, but manageable for someone who knows how to budget well, and it's the typical ceiling for rent when people more knowledgeable than myself talk about a household budget. And it occurs that she probably wouldn't have been able to pay much less in a shared space anyway. From what I've seen, a four bedroom place in Madrid for less than €2000 is not that common. My math isn't that great, but what would that be for each of four roommates?

 

[LuckyLuke]

The horse is just about dead here, but...

Idealista is not the only source to find rentals in Madrid. There are three other websites that I know about, and surely many more that I don't. There are also agencies, other non-real estate centered websites, friends, co-workers, bulletin boards, etc. And, through other sources, better deals than those offered on Idealista can be found.

Lanick quite possibly hit the nail on the head. Was she working in black for much less than is common, or was she a legal resident?

€500-600 is around ⅓ of a monthly €1600-1800 take home pay. A significant amount to pay for rent, but manageable for someone who knows how to budget well, and it's the typical ceiling for rent when people more knowledgeable than myself talk about a household budget. And it occurs that she probably wouldn't have been able to pay much less in a shared space anyway. From what I've seen, a four bedroom place in Madrid for less than €2000 is not that common. My math isn't that great, but what would that be for each of four roommates?

We have no idea what her situation was, there could have been a qualification issue. She didn't mention it.

Regardless, there is absolutely no way to distort the facts between these two places. It's comically unbalanced.

Take your example of a 4 bedroom house less than €2000. There's 84 in the entire Madrid county.

As for your example of €500-600 there are only a whopping 2 for rent.

You can put lipstick on a pig, but the reality is that Madrid has a supply constrained housing crisis that Buenos Aires does not. The quality of housing in Madrid with average wages in relation to housing is inferior to the quality of housing with average wages is in Buenos Aires.

I really don't understand the incessant Europe = Better quality life blind dogma.

When I lived in Los Angeles I too had to rent a room for years to get by and it wasn't for lack of legal qualifications - it was for lack of wages.

 

[Rich One]

I forgot to attach the photo...

The eggs are larger and the yolks are bright orange. The eggs in Villa Arias have pale yellow yolks.

Here in Recoleta maples x 30 eggs are $4500 . According to the experts the color of the yolk is only determined by the feed the chicken get. Not related to the nutritional values, you may also get 2 yolks...

 

[elhombresinnombre]

Here in Recoleta maples x 30 eggs are $4500 . According to the experts the color of the yolk is only determined by the feed the chicken get. Not related to the nutritional values, you may also get 2 yolks...

A quick search on 'Effect of hen diet on nutritional value of egg' (No AI here, thank you) turns up plenty of serious research from respected sources confirms a connection. The colour of the yolk may only be a side effect of a better diet but a better diet makes for better eggs

 

[wineguy999]

We have no idea what her situation was, there could have been a qualification issue. She didn't mention it.

Regardless, there is absolutely no way to distort the facts between these two places. It's comically unbalanced.

The horse is officially deceased, so this is it for me.
I was commenting specifically with regard to your woman in Spain and her situation - not making a comparison between ARG and ESP.

Take your example of a 4 bedroom house less than €2000. There's 84 in the entire Madrid county.

Which would be right in line with me saying it's not common - or maybe you consider 84 a lot. My point was someone would probably have to pay €500, even with roommates.

As for your example of €500-600 there are only a whopping 2 for rent.

Okay, so you're going to have to pay a little more - or use one of the other sources I referred to. Idealista isn't the only game in town.

I really don't understand the incessant Europe = Better quality life blind dogma.

Yeah, me neither. Oh, wait...strictly anecdotal, but in Spain I pay €820 annually for good health insurance. I can't come remotely close to that in CABA, in price or extent of coverage. So that's a thing.