Immigration changes: Health, Education, Deportation

[steveinbsas]

Why the rush haha? If you already have temporary residency and you're planning to stay here permanently, does it really matter whether you get permanent residency this year or next?

It looks like the "rush" (and sense of urgency and anxiety I can remember feeling in 2009) is easily explainable. The temporary residency will expire soon, and, if, as autouminescent indicated, it is not possible to obtain a student visa for a forth year there would have to be a new category in which to apply, and, if that does not exist, and, if what Alby just posted applies to the present situation, the road to permanent residency will soon reach a permanent dead end.

If and when that happens, there won't be a "next" year in which to ger permanent residency.

Does permanent residency actually give you any meaningful advantages over temporary residency?

The only one that I can think of, and the only one there ever needs to be is never having to deal with migraciones again.

 

[RichardAlem]

It looks like the "rush" (and sense of urgency and anxiety I can remember feeling in 2009) is easily explainable. The temporary residency will expire soon, and, if, as autouminescent indicated, it is not possible to obtain a student visa for a forth year there would have to be a new category in which to apply, and, if that does not exist, and, if what Alby just posted applies to the present situation, the road to permanent residency will soon reach a permanent dead end.

If and when that happens, there won't be a "next" year in which to ger permanent residency.



The only one that I can think of, and the only one there ever needs to be is never having to deal with migraciones again.

That is precisely correct and it is the sole reason for my citizenship solicitation.

Migraciones is not composed of good people nor competent people.

 

[RichardAlem]

This is really bad news for me.. I've been a formal student since March 2022. When I went to Migraciones in March 2025 to apply for permanent residency, they told me I had to wait until August 2025 to apply, as that was when my first DNI was issued. The problem is, however, over the three year period, there were constant delays due to UBA in getting my paperwork processed/ legalized that I probably spent at least half of those three years with a precaria..

Can anyone else confirm what RichardAlem is saying is true? I have to go to Migraciones next Monday. I can't reapply for another temporary residency permit as a student after 3 years.. this would really mess up my entire life

I was informed by both a long-term manager at Migraciones and by an experienced, immigration focused gestor that the requirement for permanent residency is three years in possession of a DNI.

However, given the overall lack of competence and professionalism there, you may receive other information. It doesn't hurt to try and submit the request.

 

[Alby]

As related in a separate thread on Thursday, getting one's hands on the plastic can be just as fraught and delayed as the disposición. I don't think it can be, strictly, three years with a DNI. It has to be three continuous years (in one category) as shown by dates of the disposiciónes. When Migraciones gave me the bad news (to wait another year) in April at the point of presenting my application for permanent residency, they weren't looking at the plastic: they were inspecting what the system was telling them were my disposición dates.

 

[autoluminescent]

It looks like the "rush" (and sense of urgency and anxiety I can remember feeling in 2009) is easily explainable. The temporary residency will expire soon, and, if, as autouminescent indicated, it is not possible to obtain a student visa for a forth year there would have to be a new category in which to apply, and, if that does not exist, and, if what Alby just posted applies to the present situation, the road to permanent residency will soon reach a permanent dead end.

If and when that happens, there won't be a "next" year in which to ger permanent residency.



The only one that I can think of, and the only one there ever needs to be is never having to deal with migraciones again.

Well, if permanent residency doesn't work out for me I'll have to resort to begging my ex-girlfriend to take me back..

 

[steveinbsas]

I don't think it can be, strictly, three years with a DNI. It has to be three continuous years (in one category) as shown by dates of the disposiciónes. When Migraciones gave me the bad news (to wait another year) in April at the point of presenting my application for permanent residency, they weren't looking at the plastic: they were inspecting what the system was telling them were my disposición dates.

If I understand correctly (based pn personal experience), it is necessary to meet the "current" requirements for temporary residency when asking for the cambio de categoría from temporary to permanent residency. So, if it is not possible get a student visa for a forth year, how would it be possible for anyone who has had a "studemt visa" for the three previous years to become a permanent resident at that point?

A good question to ask on Monday might be, in the event the request for the cambio de categoría is declined, how long someine with expired temporary residency can "legally" remain in the country.

 

[Alby]

Just to add further color to the April experience, the front line staff member who took my application for permanent residency called her supervisor to assess her view that from what the system was showing her I was not yet in a position to seek PR. He agreed with her. They explained to us that in the end all they do is take applications; others decide. They then said I had two options: have them register the application as one for PR; have them register it for another temporary residency renewal. The risk with the first option was that if the final delegate agreed that I wasnt in a position to claim PR, instead of sending it back rejected to be replaced by a TR renewal, they would annul everything to date and invite me to reapply from scratch: the clock reset to zero again. As I say, there are all sorts of internal rules and arbitrariness that are invisible to us until we bump up against them.

I was very lucky the staff member was across that detail on the day and that I had my lawyer on hand to advise. I had previously instructed him to try on the PR application because I (wrongly) imagined the worst thing that could happen would be they reject it and take it subsequently as a renewal instead.

 

[RichardAlem]

Anyone entertaining the idea of interacting with Migraciones should prepare themself for the ordeal by first reading "The Trial" by Franz Kafka and understand that you will soon become the antagonist, Josef K.

 

[skolka]

I went to Colonia yesterday spent the night came back today for Visa run and get money out of the ATM I had zero issues going through immigration they just checked my passport and said have a nice day that was my experience and I've been doing Visa runs for the last 3 years however I am trying to get a DNI. I don't want to deal with this stress anymore of potentially getting denied entry

 

[Johnny]

I went to Colonia yesterday spent the night came back today for Visa run and get money out of the ATM I had zero issues going through immigration they just checked my passport and said have a nice day that was my experience and I've been doing Visa runs for the last 3 years however I am trying to get a DNI. I don't want to deal with this stress anymore of potentially getting denied entry

HI Skolka. Can you post your experience getting ATM money in Colonia? Where? How much allowed? Fees? Thanks!