Immigration changes: Health, Education, Deportation

[Bajo_cero2]

Rentista Visa no longer leads to permanent residency? A friend of mine would have been on her third renewal in February and was looking forward to finally being able to settle her mind, settle down for good. Her lawyer is now saying that they aren't certain this path will be honored and that they could apply for another year of temporary residency, instead (would be her fourth).

I just looked at the Migration website, and where it used to advise on 'cambio de categoria' it now seems that permanent residency will only be granted to children of Argentine citizens born abroad or for family reunification after meeting those years of temp residency. Also, it looks like the rentista residency is capped at three years in total, so another renewal would be rejected anyhow. Seems it's all up in the air, but if you're on that track, it might be wise to contact your lawyers before you get too comfortable and see if they can ask for a clearer answer so you don't waste money/resources further pursuing a dream that won't materialize.

My friend is in shock, honestly. She'd put down roots and, well, maybe not wise in this world that's growing colder to immigration on all fronts. They move the goalposts every time you think you're able to breath and have some faith it'll work out.Those of you able to get in before the tumult, be very thankful, it seems to come down to the luck of the draw, any given year.

DNU 366/2025 lower everyone's status. Citizens now are permanent residents, and PM like your friend now are temporary residents. This is why DNU says citizenship (a second class one) now is under DNM competency, but they can only grant Permanent Residency.

 

[Paige55]

DNU 366/2025 lower everyone's status. Citizens now are permanent residents, and PM like your friend now are temporary residents. This is why DNU says citizenship (a second class one) now is under DNM competency, but they can only grant Permanent Residency.

Thank you for the clarity. She's read through the DNU and it still seems to say you can apply to permanent residency by proving sufficient means of support and having 'roots' (I'm assuming that means her three years of temporary rentista residency) but, as you say...I guess they won't upgrade her status to permanent and she will have to leave. She can't apply for citizenship, she's left the country each year for a month or two to visit home and gather paperwork for her residency renewals. I think she still plans on trying but, if it's not possible, she's also getting ready to have to move back so she's not too devastated if that news comes. I'm not sure the process and if she gets an unfavorable decision from immigration, if they can appeal? it sounds like no but I'm hoping she finds a way. she really saw a whole life here.

 

[skolka]

A friend of mine just returned from Europe. He over stayed his tourist visa by two years, paid the fine and was in Europe for a month. Came back to Argentina today on tourist visa, no questions about health insurance or return plane ticket out of the country. Only question was how long was he going to be in Argentina.

Once again I think it all comes down to the individual immigration officer.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Thank you for the clarity. She's read through the DNU and it still seems to say you can apply to permanent residency by proving sufficient means of support and having 'roots' (I'm assuming that means her three years of temporary rentista residency) but, as you say...I guess they won't upgrade her status to permanent and she will have to leave. She can't apply for citizenship, she's left the country each year for a month or two to visit home and gather paperwork for her residency renewals. I think she still plans on trying but, if it's not possible, she's also getting ready to have to move back so she's not too devastated if that news comes. I'm not sure the process and if she gets an unfavorable decision from immigration, if they can appeal? it sounds like no but I'm hoping she finds a way. she really saw a whole life here.

Yes, she can apply for citizenship. But she has to do it under Federal Courts alleging the DNU 366/2025 is unconstitutional because art. 75 inc. 12 of the NC bans the President on citizenship plus uninterrupted residency is what we used to call serfdom.

 

[Paige55]

Yes, she can apply for citizenship. But she has to do it under Federal Courts alleging the DNU 366/2025 is unconstitutional because art. 75 inc. 12 of the NC bans the President on citizenship plus uninterrupted residency is what we used to call serfdom.

Thank you, Bajo. I don't know if she has the means to hire an additional lawyer to fight it in court and obviously this is something she likely can't do alone. I believe she'll consult her attorney in a couple months, hoping they have some new clarity. Luckily she is some months away from that renewal/application for permanent residency.

One further question, if she gets denied the permanent residency, how long would she have after that verdict to wrap up her affairs in the country? That's something she's worried about as she is renting an apartment from her friends parents, would want to give them proper notice and sell her belongings and arrange her flight home. Something that seems impossible to do while waiting on a yes/no verdict (which can take months/years).

Do they give at least some time to people, or will she have to find a way out of the country immediately upon denial of permanent residency? I think, as she's from the U.S., she assumes that she has to leave immediately upon finding out, which is hard as someone who was trying to settle to cancel bank accounts/ healthcare plans/rental contracts/arrange a flight home...basically overnight.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Thank you, Bajo. I don't know if she has the means to hire an additional lawyer to fight it in court and obviously this is something she likely can't do alone. I believe she'll consult her attorney in a couple months, hoping they have some new clarity. Luckily she is some months away from that renewal/application for permanent residency.

One further question, if she gets denied the permanent residency, how long would she have after that verdict to wrap up her affairs in the country? That's something she's worried about as she is renting an apartment from her friends parents, would want to give them proper notice and sell her belongings and arrange her flight home. Something that seems impossible to do while waiting on a yes/no verdict (which can take months/years).

Do they give at least some time to people, or will she have to find a way out of the country immediately upon denial of permanent residency? I think, as she's from the U.S., she assumes that she has to leave immediately upon finding out, which is hard as someone who was trying to settle to cancel bank accounts/ healthcare plans/rental contracts/arrange a flight home...basically overnight.

She can ignore the deportation order and then apply for citizenship. She can also appeal at CAF Courts for years if her lawyer is smart and stays under the regime before DNU.

 

[steveinbsas]

In response to this, posted on May 31st:

Hello Everyone. I have read the entire thread and I am still confused.
Hopefully I can get some input from the wise members of this forum

So my story is the following:

I entered with my wife and my 3 kids January 1st on a 90 day tourist visa and we extended it without problems for another 90 days.

We are from Germany. Now we have planned to do a visa run to Uruguay and just come back and repeat the cycle + extension.

I work remotely so I do NOT work in the country without license or anything.I get my money via WU.

Now we found a private school for the kids which would start August 1st and we even found a nice house to rent nearby.
We also planned to have another child and over that route find our path to permanent residency & later citizenship.Not leaving the country for 2 years then is no problem at all.

But with the new rules we are now super scared that we will be denied re-entry now and I am seriously considering overstaying for now until the child is born.

We have health insurance, I have no criminal record. I am a cybersecurity & devops specialist and I am sure I will be able to find a local job or start a company as soon as we have an DNI.

My current monthly income is around 5k usd which is enough to make sure we are not having any problems for the foreseeable future.

So what do is the general recommendation? Overstay and lawyer up?
I really do not want to run the risk of being denied entry..we have all our belongings here in that new house..it is not much but would be an absurd hassle...

Thank you already in advance for your opinions!

Yes, I amaware that the overstay time would not count towards any residency time towards citizenship.

That's no problem. We fell in love with this weird country and we can wait anew 2 years or longer whenever the real countdown starts.

Bajo_cero2 replied with this:

In fact it does. Ignore the decree.

At this point it would be interesting to know, as the decree now appears to be in full force, how long anyone whose immigration status is irregular will be able to "ignore the decree" without migraciones issuing a deportation order, and, following that, how long they would be able to ignore the deportation order, unless fredericoo83 can somehow apply for citizenship through the court system before that happens.

 

[Konner_Long]

Hi all,
Id rather ask on this thread than create a new one as the new migration changes seems to have changed things a load.

I received the new temporary family reunification visa from the Consulado outside Argentina and arrived just this week. The Consulado gave me this site to apply for a DNI for the first time.
I followed all the instructions and I have a turno at Migraciones at Hipolito Yrigoyen.

I have no idea what to bring besides my passport and my wife with her DNI. It says nothing on the site either as to what I need to bring?

Anyone have any idea as I want to try to reduce the headaches on the day.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

In response to this, posted on May 31st:




Bajo_cero2 replied with this:



At this point it would be interesting to know, as the decree now appears to be in full force, how long anyone whose immigration status is irregular will be able to "ignore the decree" without migraciones issuing a deportation order, and, following that, how long they would be able to ignore the deportation order, unless fredericoo83 can somehow apply for citizenship through the court system before that happens.

Immigration hunts in the Zoo so, unless you apply for something, you do not exists.

 

[Bajo_cero2]

Hi all,
Id rather ask on this thread than create a new one as the new migration changes seems to have changed things a load.

I received the new temporary family reunification visa from the Consulado outside Argentina and arrived just this week. The Consulado gave me this site to apply for a DNI for the first time.
I followed all the instructions and I have a turno at Migraciones at Hipolito Yrigoyen.

I have no idea what to bring besides my passport and my wife with her DNI. It says nothing on the site either as to what I need to bring?

Anyone have any idea as I want to try to reduce the headaches on the day.

What about marriage certificate? apostilled and translated here plus fresh address certificates.