Industria Argentina , Is There Anything That Doesnt Break?

[scotttswan]

To add to the thread, its quite hard to find reasonably priced shoes for my large feet here. I'm one of these people who will wear the fuck out of a pair of trainers until they fall apart and generally in the uk my trainers tended to last about two years before falling apart.

Here they lasted barely a year before i had to replace them. I've since given up on buying local trainers and have started importing cheap ones from china, first pair lasted around two years and my second pair are now approaching that mark without any problems!

You know its inevitable though, instead of encouraging local businesses to compete in the world market and helping them export quality Argentine products all over the world, they'll end up wasting more money on even more bureaucracy to prevent people from importing stuff via correo argentina.

 

[johnw100]

Viva la Patria!

I used this as my Facebox profile for a while, with the title Industria Argentina. I got all sorts of nasty comments from my pro-K friends. Well, I should say "friends."

Arnt those just some rip off adidas trainers? or are they officially made in Argentina for adidas?

 

[camberiu]

Because they have external competition, multinationals from developped countries that are also trying to control those markets.

I see.....So how do you explain these guys?

 

[glasgowjohn]

Viva la Patria!

I used this as my Facebox profile for a while, with the title Industria Argentina. I got all sorts of nasty comments from my pro-K friends. Well, I should say "friends."

You do know of course this is special sports shoe with special venting to ensure that the foot is kept cool when you exercise.............

 

[John.St]

Good quality:
Longvie Cleanium L5616 washing machine. Has lasted 4 years with only one "repair", I changed the built-in fuse, cost me 50 centavos.
Electrolux fridge/freezer DC41. 4 years without any kind of problems.
Electra ASP/ALPHA12 + CSP12ST Aircon. Also 4 years perfect.
Whirlpool WMS20D microwave oven.Also 4 yearsyears perfect
Yelmo SC3600 hair dryer. 3½ years without any kind of problems.
Ultracomb BM-2600 hand mixer. 3½ years perfect.
Trousers casual wear 'Pantalon de combate' from 'Pampero' and 'Gaucho'. Oldest pair 3 years and still going strong.
Osram bajo consumo "lightbulbs" - provided you test them yourself for 14 seconds (or more). Bought 32 of the species october 2010, so far only 3 have died on me.

 

[John.St]

To add to the thread, its quite hard to find reasonably priced shoes for my large feet here.

Do a Cindarella - cut a heal, clip a toe :huh: B)

 

[scotttswan]

Do a Cindarella - cut a heal, clip a toe :huh: B)

I don't need to, the argie ones did that for me

 

[sleslie23]

Arnt those just some rip off adidas trainers? or are they officially made in Argentina for adidas?

I didn't check for a certificate of authenticity. I bought them in Paseo Alcorta in a sporting goods store.

I posted that mostly as a joke. Those shoes weren't that new, as you can probably tell by the dirt!

 

[Matiasba]

I see.....So how do you explain these guys?

Yes, there are exceptions. We have Techint, every country has a bnch of succeesful industries, but that insignificant compared to (external) multinationals. The developed sector in Latam is the agro, commodities, not the industry, unlike the Us, Japan, Korea, Europe, that doesnt mean that you wont find industry in these countries.

 

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The problem is that Argentine products can be two or three times more expensive and still poorer quality than elsewhere. Take our longvie oven, it cost the equivelant of £400 and its as basic an oven as Ive ever seen, it doesnt even have a digital display apart from a light on the front to say the grill is on. it would cost £150 in the UK. For the £400 I bought the longvie for I could by a state of the art Bosch ,Neff,etc which will last years.

I think part of the problem is incredibly greedy company owners in Argentina. who push up prices for extra income. For example we bought a kitchen worktop, it was imported from Italy. Its lovely quality and yet it cost half the price of local Argentine worktops which were dated,ugly and inferior quality. We bought it from the importer and the installer liked it so much he decided to sell it through his shop. When a friends enquired a few weeks later he was asking 5 times the price we paid for the same worktop.

Also, I heard that because most of the manufacturing of goods is done in the south of Argentina where wages are low it means that transporting them to the rest of the country is expensive. No rail network means that the lorry drivers rule, and theyre asking crazy money to transport goods , thus pushing up the cost to the consumer.

Yeah, my girlfriend works in electronics (Tablets / Mobile phones / Air Conditioning etc) and she says all of their stuff is assembled down south in Ushuaia (or thereabouts).
But she says that some of the phones (weird brands like Noblex and Alcatel) come in from China, are disassembled and then reassembled in Ushuaia with any parts that can be made in Argentina inserted to replace the foreign parts.

Its a big headache apparently, because the list of parts "hecho en Argentina" is quite dynamic and is always changing, so their work patterns in the factories (and all the admin / logistics that goes with it) are always changing. Streamlining or value adding practices are not a priority - hence the consumer pays.

The bottom line is that the economy here is geared towards being a big jobs program for Argentinean workers. Many many local jobs are essentially subsidised at the expense of (foreign) competition.
I'm a moderate socialist at heart and it's great that they look after local jobs, but they have certainly got the balance wrong in Argentina IMO.