Iran: Next expat haven?
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sergio said:
Iran's currency has lost half of its value in recent weeks. That doesn't mean it's a expat haven. I doubt more than a handful would consider Iran until they change their government. As a matter of fact, people don't normally live in Muslim countries unless they're Muslim. Malyasia & Turkey are exceptions maybe.
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Actually Syria was, while not an expat haven, a pretty popular off the map cheap tourist destination until the civil war started. Especially with gay tourists- go figure- the underground gay scene was supposed to be quite something there.
The war is now over in Sri Lanka, its beautiful, and probably still pretty cheap.
But Iran is pretty grim. Contrary to the Republican Bluster, the sanctions that Obama has been putting in place have really been working, and many things are in short supply there, much worse getting Apple products there than in Buenos Aires.
If you want a good window into what real Iranians think, watch Parazit- its a US produced show about Iran, kind of like Jon Stewart for Iranians. Unfortunately, its in Farsi, but there are some subtitled episodes on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mxRo5BUe6E&list=UU1ZMRnUt4bptGPpvh9K6c3g&index=1&feature=plcp
The war is now over in Sri Lanka, its beautiful, and probably still pretty cheap.
But Iran is pretty grim. Contrary to the Republican Bluster, the sanctions that Obama has been putting in place have really been working, and many things are in short supply there, much worse getting Apple products there than in Buenos Aires.
If you want a good window into what real Iranians think, watch Parazit- its a US produced show about Iran, kind of like Jon Stewart for Iranians. Unfortunately, its in Farsi, but there are some subtitled episodes on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mxRo5BUe6E&list=UU1ZMRnUt4bptGPpvh9K6c3g&index=1&feature=plcp
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Iran will become like Brazil back then. HyperInflations! When those days, back in the 70's? the Brazilian currenciy was called, "Cruzeiro" .. I remember the prices was changing in daily basis, or no by the hours!
Most merchants were posting their prices as $1000? when I thought it was super cheap
and inquired, the shopkeeper said, No Senhor, it is $100.000.000 million Cruzeiros!
He's been _lazy_to change the prices each hour and said people understands. Those Hyperinflation days, you would put your money in used goods, buy Radio,T.V. a Stereo sets, and you could triple your invested money in hours! So, IRAN has become the same way, as it was for Brazil back then..
Most merchants were posting their prices as $1000? when I thought it was super cheap
and inquired, the shopkeeper said, No Senhor, it is $100.000.000 million Cruzeiros!
He's been _lazy_to change the prices each hour and said people understands. Those Hyperinflation days, you would put your money in used goods, buy Radio,T.V. a Stereo sets, and you could triple your invested money in hours! So, IRAN has become the same way, as it was for Brazil back then..
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Hybrid Ambassador said:
... and you would lose your 300% profit in the next hours of time?
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While I know that the original comment was not entirely serious - and I am certainly not accusing the original poster or those who have responded of the attitude I am about to describe, I have to say that this kind of mentality is vile.
What kind of person moves themselves - and/ or their money - around the globe in order to profit from economic crises, with no cultural knowledge or affinity for these places, or regard for the consequences of their actions? This is an attitude that we (rightly) recognize as vulgar when we contemplate the actions of someone like the notorious boat-seizer Paul Singer and his ilk.
I, as I am sure many others did, came to and invested in this country because we - at some point - believed enough in the country, including the people, to do so. I, as I know many others have, have become extremely disillusioned after being here for several years and consistently seeing our acting in good faith and with good will as 'boludez' or weakness, being repeatedly taken advantage of in both the personal and professional spheres etc etc etc by people from all levels of society/ walks of life/ political persuasions. These are things that we have learned in carne propia by physically moving here and tying our fates to those of our local businesses and this country - we are not like the vulture funds or even the disgruntled bonistas thousands of miles away. At some point, if not now, we saw a bright future here for ourselves and perhaps our families.
I don't know anybody here who has gone into a business where they need to have a lot of dealings with the locals (as suppliers or clients) who has overwhelmingly positive things to say about this place, mostly due to the PEOPLE and general mentality and dishonesty here, not necessarily the actions of the K government. As the child of an Argentine mother myself, I can say that it's doubly annoying to couple a complete lack of faith in this place with a growing sense of shame about my own heritage!
Nonetheless, I still believe it to be distasteful to rub one's hands together in speculative glee at the opportunity afforded by people so desperate to get rid of their dollars/ assets/ whatever (or to obtain essential goods - I'm not talking about TVs and radios) that a quick profit can be turned. It's also probably not the best idea to do so openly as an expat in Buenos Aires at this moment, when one of the favored slurs for those who are against the K government is 'vendepatria' and violence appears to be on the rise.
Just my two cents, which I know nobody asked for!
Signed,
Been here too long, disgruntled and disillusioned as hell, wondering why she was so stupid as to invest many years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in this place (use your imagination - I've been here for most of the years since 2003) but also trying really hard not to let it turn her into an asshole for life alias "Why oh why couldn't my mother have been Brazilian instead?"
What kind of person moves themselves - and/ or their money - around the globe in order to profit from economic crises, with no cultural knowledge or affinity for these places, or regard for the consequences of their actions? This is an attitude that we (rightly) recognize as vulgar when we contemplate the actions of someone like the notorious boat-seizer Paul Singer and his ilk.
I, as I am sure many others did, came to and invested in this country because we - at some point - believed enough in the country, including the people, to do so. I, as I know many others have, have become extremely disillusioned after being here for several years and consistently seeing our acting in good faith and with good will as 'boludez' or weakness, being repeatedly taken advantage of in both the personal and professional spheres etc etc etc by people from all levels of society/ walks of life/ political persuasions. These are things that we have learned in carne propia by physically moving here and tying our fates to those of our local businesses and this country - we are not like the vulture funds or even the disgruntled bonistas thousands of miles away. At some point, if not now, we saw a bright future here for ourselves and perhaps our families.
I don't know anybody here who has gone into a business where they need to have a lot of dealings with the locals (as suppliers or clients) who has overwhelmingly positive things to say about this place, mostly due to the PEOPLE and general mentality and dishonesty here, not necessarily the actions of the K government. As the child of an Argentine mother myself, I can say that it's doubly annoying to couple a complete lack of faith in this place with a growing sense of shame about my own heritage!
Nonetheless, I still believe it to be distasteful to rub one's hands together in speculative glee at the opportunity afforded by people so desperate to get rid of their dollars/ assets/ whatever (or to obtain essential goods - I'm not talking about TVs and radios) that a quick profit can be turned. It's also probably not the best idea to do so openly as an expat in Buenos Aires at this moment, when one of the favored slurs for those who are against the K government is 'vendepatria' and violence appears to be on the rise.
Just my two cents, which I know nobody asked for!
Signed,
Been here too long, disgruntled and disillusioned as hell, wondering why she was so stupid as to invest many years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in this place (use your imagination - I've been here for most of the years since 2003) but also trying really hard not to let it turn her into an asshole for life alias "Why oh why couldn't my mother have been Brazilian instead?"
