It's time to fight back against Islamic death threats
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You think it is drivel to report that a person can be sentenced to death for blasphemy by an allied government and that, as per the original Ali/Huff piece, religiously sanctioned death threats chill a free press. I don't, but your post is not without some irony. You do realize that if you were a Moslem and used "god's" name in vain as you did here with the Christian deity, you could be brought up on charges of blasphemy and severely punished in several countries.bigbadwolf said:
Out of curiousity, what issues do you think I have, and do you think the way you express disapproval does not evidence some severe anti-social, temper tantrum manners?
OK. I get it. YOU are not interested in dating me. But tell me, are you in favor of state sanctioned death for blasphemy? Death for apostasy? Unequal treatment for all women and all non-Muslims under the law? What do you think of the Ali/Huff piece linked in the original post? Have you heard from Molly Norris?esllou said:
More (drivel) on the Asia Bibi story out of Pakistan
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...VHGVBQ?docId=d706bc79e7094edbbce2eaa7bcd0d211
"LAHORE, Pakistan (AP) — Around 250 hard-line Muslims staged a demonstration in the central Pakistani city of Lahore on Wednesday, warning the president not to pardon a Christian woman sentenced to death for insulting Islam.
They also denounced any attempt to change Pakistan's blasphemy law, which critics say is often misused to persecute Christians like Asia Bibi and other minorities. Her case has prompted outrage from human rights groups and a personal appeal from Pope Benedict XVI for her release.
But hard-line Islamic groups in Pakistan have pushed back and some have even threatened officials in the past who suggested reforming or repealing the blasphemy law. These groups have significant power since politicians from the major parties rely on them for votes.
"We are ready to sacrifice our life for the Prophet Muhammad," chanted protesters in Lahore — many of whom were students from Islamic seminaries in the city.
The rally was organized by the Movement for Protection of the Prophet's Honor, a group of hard-line Sunni Muslims that was formed in 2001 to oppose changes in the blasphemy law."
CNN also carried the (drivel) story.http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/24/pakistan.christian/?hpt=T2
Islambad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Two prominent Pakistani Muslim leaders threatened Wednesday to call for nationwide protests if the president pardons a Christian woman sentenced to death for insulting the Muslim prophet Mohammed.
"If the president pardons Asia Bibi, we will raise our voices across the country until he is forced to take his decision back," nationally known mufti Muneer Ur Rehman said.
Hafiz Ibtisam Elahi Zaheer, a leading cleric in Lahore, said pardoning the woman would be "criminal negligence" and would cause inter-religious tension.
Punjab Gov. Salman Taseer told CNN Tuesday that President Asif Ali Zardari would pardon Bibi if the High Court did not grant her request for mercy.
Bibi, who has been jailed for nearly 15 months, was convicted in a Pakistani court earlier this month of breaking the country's controversial blasphemy law by insulting Islam's Prophet Mohammed, a crime punishable with death or life imprisonment, according to Pakistan's penal code. She was sentenced to death.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...VHGVBQ?docId=d706bc79e7094edbbce2eaa7bcd0d211
"LAHORE, Pakistan (AP) — Around 250 hard-line Muslims staged a demonstration in the central Pakistani city of Lahore on Wednesday, warning the president not to pardon a Christian woman sentenced to death for insulting Islam.
They also denounced any attempt to change Pakistan's blasphemy law, which critics say is often misused to persecute Christians like Asia Bibi and other minorities. Her case has prompted outrage from human rights groups and a personal appeal from Pope Benedict XVI for her release.
But hard-line Islamic groups in Pakistan have pushed back and some have even threatened officials in the past who suggested reforming or repealing the blasphemy law. These groups have significant power since politicians from the major parties rely on them for votes.
"We are ready to sacrifice our life for the Prophet Muhammad," chanted protesters in Lahore — many of whom were students from Islamic seminaries in the city.
The rally was organized by the Movement for Protection of the Prophet's Honor, a group of hard-line Sunni Muslims that was formed in 2001 to oppose changes in the blasphemy law."
CNN also carried the (drivel) story.http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/24/pakistan.christian/?hpt=T2
Islambad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Two prominent Pakistani Muslim leaders threatened Wednesday to call for nationwide protests if the president pardons a Christian woman sentenced to death for insulting the Muslim prophet Mohammed.
"If the president pardons Asia Bibi, we will raise our voices across the country until he is forced to take his decision back," nationally known mufti Muneer Ur Rehman said.
Hafiz Ibtisam Elahi Zaheer, a leading cleric in Lahore, said pardoning the woman would be "criminal negligence" and would cause inter-religious tension.
Punjab Gov. Salman Taseer told CNN Tuesday that President Asif Ali Zardari would pardon Bibi if the High Court did not grant her request for mercy.
Bibi, who has been jailed for nearly 15 months, was convicted in a Pakistani court earlier this month of breaking the country's controversial blasphemy law by insulting Islam's Prophet Mohammed, a crime punishable with death or life imprisonment, according to Pakistan's penal code. She was sentenced to death.
http://www.patcondell.net/
At the risk of offending those think these issues are drivel..or as Pat would say: I don´t respect your beliefs and I don´t care if you are offended. Cheers.
p.s. as a new video has replaced the one intended to reference , here's a link to the video on women http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/a/u/1/5Ana9w3uSNA
At the risk of offending those think these issues are drivel..or as Pat would say: I don´t respect your beliefs and I don´t care if you are offended. Cheers.
p.s. as a new video has replaced the one intended to reference , here's a link to the video on women http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/a/u/1/5Ana9w3uSNA
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/25/blasphemy-resolution-pass_n_788305.html
The resolution by Islamic countries is scheduled to be considered by the U.N. General Assembly in December.
The vote -- 76 yes, 64 no, and 42 abstentions -- received fewer affirmative votes than last year, said Freedom House, a human rights group that has worked against the resolution.
"We are disappointed that this pernicious resolution has passed yet again, despite strong evidence that legal measures to restrict speech are both ineffective and a direct violation of freedom of expression," said Paula Schriefer, director of advocacy at Freedom House.
The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, an independent bipartisan panel, said the measure's diminished support shows some countries think the resolution can do more harm than good.
The resolution by Islamic countries is scheduled to be considered by the U.N. General Assembly in December.
The vote -- 76 yes, 64 no, and 42 abstentions -- received fewer affirmative votes than last year, said Freedom House, a human rights group that has worked against the resolution.
"We are disappointed that this pernicious resolution has passed yet again, despite strong evidence that legal measures to restrict speech are both ineffective and a direct violation of freedom of expression," said Paula Schriefer, director of advocacy at Freedom House.
The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, an independent bipartisan panel, said the measure's diminished support shows some countries think the resolution can do more harm than good.
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/books/story/2010/11/27/norway-publisher-rushdie.html - Case reopened against attackers of Nygaard - a step in the right direction
"In 1989, a fatwa was issued against Rushdie by Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, who called on Muslims to execute the writer following the publication of his novel The Satanic Verses, seen as blasphemous because of its depiction of the Prophet."
"Nygaard wasn't the only person connected with The Satanic Verses who got attacked. In 1991, the Japanese translator of the book, Hitoshi Igarashi, was killed and the Italian translator, Ettore Caprioli was also attacked. No one has been arrested in those cases either."
"In 1989, a fatwa was issued against Rushdie by Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, who called on Muslims to execute the writer following the publication of his novel The Satanic Verses, seen as blasphemous because of its depiction of the Prophet."
"Nygaard wasn't the only person connected with The Satanic Verses who got attacked. In 1991, the Japanese translator of the book, Hitoshi Igarashi, was killed and the Italian translator, Ettore Caprioli was also attacked. No one has been arrested in those cases either."
http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/a/u/2/bWw7H4m389o ...
defending free speech. The left is the new far right.
defending free speech. The left is the new far right.
I appreciate your enthusiasm and dedication to an issue that you believe in, but it may be more helpful to post your feelings in a more organized way....just copying and pasting links is really chaotic. I don´t even understand what you are fighting for! Just a suggestion...
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darmanad said:
There's someone on this forum who interviewed and met personally with Salman Rushdie