Just Hours Away From SALVATION and SANITY !!!

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Dudester said:
SOMETIMES.....

We have to get lost to find ourselves

SOMETIMES....

We got to go WALKABOUT......


Rick Warren? He's a Charlatan with a large belly (the sin of gluttony) and "facial Hair" (the "cool disguise") so what? Just a younger Jerry Fadwell....
No, no prayers from Rick thank you

I choose my words very carefully, maybe others need to understand them better (no meaningless crap here Senor)

....."well, Perhaps not" - Yes, Perhaps Not........What are you getting at? It's pretty simple - SALVATION - the world is being saved from the horrors of the last 8 years.... Sanity is making a comeback......

I'm Crestfallen, the world of illusion is at my door. I ain't hauling any of my Lambs, to the market place anymore. Sister's on the highway, with that steal driven crew - Papa's in the big house, his working days are through......... Dark Beauty, can I blow a little smoke on you? (B. Dylan)

JUST THINK, IN ABOUT 6 HOURS THE HEALING WILL BEGIN - A GREAT DAY....... JANUARY 20th, 2009
Bull shit!
Man, where are you? does anyone really believe that one man will change the world? Does any human being really believe that one man will do what he promised to do? How can he? The President of the USA does takes orders. He does not make decisions alone. He is only a mouthpiece. Now that said, if I am wrong I will come to BA and kiss anyones ass in front of the pink house.
I like millions of others love this man but he is a puppet on a string, we thought JFK would change the world but................

I have no faith in the King, and the King is the almighty dollar.

By the way there was never 44 presidents in the USA
 
Wake up Dudester!...........the Obamanomics truth is as follows:

What is required to happen and what will happen, in the next year, will have calamitous consequences for the future of our country. What needs to take place is:
  • Consumers need to cut back dramatically on consuming. Spending as a percentage of GDP needs to decline to 65%, or by $1 trillion. This would be approximately $3,000 less spending per household per year.
  • Twenty years of consumer debt accumulation must be unwound. This required deleveraging needs to eliminate $2 trillion of household debt. The result will be thousands of retail store closings, mall closings, restaurant closings, and auto dealership closings. The distinction between needs and wants will reveal itself like a sledgehammer.
  • The consumer needs to increase their savings rate from 2% to 10%. This would provide more capital for investment.
  • People who cannot afford the mortgage on their home need to sell or enter foreclosure. When home prices fall far enough, the market will clear the inventory. Lower prices are the only way to eliminate excess supply.
  • Companies that have failed to prepare for this downturn by taking on excessive debt, allowing expenses to soar, and having no clear strategic plan should go bankrupt. Unemployment will reach 9%. New businesses will be created and Americans will be hired.
  • The government should make sure that no one starves to death or has to sleep on the streets. The safety net of food stamps and unemployment insurance should be strengthened.
  • The government's purpose is to protect its citizens, enforce the laws and maintain the public infrastructure. Our roads are crumbling, we have 156,000 structurally deficient bridges, millions of miles of pipes under our streets are rusting away, and our power grid is antiquated. The job of government was to maintain these things. They have failed miserably. Why does anyone think a new government infrastructure plan will work? Bridges to nowhere will be everywhere.
  • Reducing spending dramatically on our military empire would provide funds to support the social safety net that is required during a depression. Congressmen in the pocket of the Defense industry will never allow it to happen.
What needs to occur would inflict too much pain for our politician leaders to allow. A violent short depression will be traded for a decade long extended depression. A painful deflationary depression will be converted into a hyperinflationary depression that could threaten the very existence of our country. President elect Obama has begun his finely orchestrated marketing plan to spend $775 billion of borrowed taxpayer money. His rationale for the stimulus package is classic Washington politics:
Obama: "Economists from across the political spectrum agree that if we don't act swiftly and boldly, we could see a much deeper economic downturn. That's why we need an American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan that not only creates jobs in the short-term but spurs economic growth and competitiveness in the long-term."

Not one economist on the face of the earth predicted the events of 2008. None of Obama's list of blue chip economists saw a crisis coming and they have no idea how long or deep the current downturn will be. They make weather forecasters look highly accurate in comparison. Most economists are either, sellouts (Lawrence Yun), cheerleaders (Larry Kudlow), ideologues, or academic theoreticians. If Barack Obama is depending on economists to determine our future, all is lost. Alan Greenspan was an economist. If we had done the opposite of everything he recommended in the last 20 years, the country would be on the right track. President Obama, with the overwhelming support of a Democratic Congress will double down on the trillions already poured down a rat hole by the Bush administration. The scenario that will play out is:
  • The $775 billion plan will grow to at least $1 trillion as Obama will need to buy off various factions within Congress with pork projects.
  • Congress has just approved the 2nd $350 billion tranche of TARP funds. Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi will shovel billions to homeowners who should be foreclosed upon. Billions more will be given to the automakers. GMAC will get more funds from the taxpayer at 8% interest so they can then loan it to subprime borrowers at 0%. This doesn't sound profitable, but they'll make it up on volume.
  • TARP funds will be given to commercial developers who foolishly overleveraged, overbuilt, and overpaid for properties. Credit card companies that handed out credit like candy for the last 20 years will see their write-offs triple to over 10% by 2010. The government will give more of your tax dollars to these incompetent bankers so they can send out another 5 million credit card offers to deadbeats.
  • The Federal Reserve will buy mortgage debt and long-term Treasuries to artificially reduce market interest rates. With money market funds paying .25%, senior citizen savers will be forced to take on risk to get a return on their money. Penalizing savers to resuscitate reckless gamblers is the path that Ben Bernanke has chosen. When the markets decline another 20% in 2009, more senior citizens will see their retirements destroyed by Mr. Bernanke.
  • Consensus among the talking heads on CNBC is that markets will go up in 2009 because they went down so much in 2008. This is what amounts to analysis by business television. The people they interview have a vested financial interest in the market going up. So despite the fact that earnings will collapse in 2009, these pundits are sure the markets will rise. I'd bet against the consensus.
  • Citigroup and JPMorgan will require additional enormous injections of capital from the taxpayer due to their looming credit card and commercial loan losses. The top 10 biggest banks are insolvent. They are being kept alive on life support systems provided by the Federal Reserve and Treasury. All the bankers who didn't bankrupt their banks should be outraged at this misappropriation of taxpayer capital to incompetent, reckless, immoral, politically connected bankers.
  • Home prices will drop another 15% in 2009 and will remain depressed until 2015. The market will adjust to its natural equilibrium level despite all government efforts to keep prices artificially elevated. When you can buy a house and rent it out and generate a positive cash flow, houses will be reasonably priced.
  • Despite the immense spending, zero interest rates, and propping up bankrupt financial institutions, consumers will not spend. Economists, bureaucrats and politicians are so focused on models and theories that they have failed to realize that the social mood of the country has changed forever. The poor economic conditions are being caused by the mood change, not vice versa. A return to frugality, saving, and simpler lives will keep a cap on spending for at least the next decade.
The sum total of all that has been done and all that will be done will eventually lead to a hyperinflationary bust. The money supply is being expanded too rapidly, fiscal stimulus spending will be borrowed from foreigners, the dollar will fall as foreigners refuse to accept 2% for 10 years, and the Federal Reserve will react too late just like they did when this crisis began.
This overstimulation of the economy will lead to a panic out of dollars and into real assets. The government will attempt to control the situation by confiscating gold as they did in the 1930s and Americans will be forced to surrender more liberties. In periods of economic and social upheaval - war, revolution, or dictatorship become possibilities.
The average American needs to wake up from their materialistic stupor and understand the risks that lie ahead. An educated concerned citizen is our only defense against tyranny. Orwellian governmental policies will be inflicted upon the populous.

Love Big Brother or Make a Stand Now
In the end, Winston Smith, the rebel in Orwell’s 1984, is brought to Room 101 and O’Brien threatens to let rats chew his face off if he doesn’t pledge his love for Big Brother. He cracks and learns to Love Big Brother. We are nearing a point of no return in this country. Government is acquiring more power and the citizens are losing their liberty and freedom. We can either learn to love it or make a stand against it now.
Ayn Rand in her book Atlas Shrugged describes how we have slowly transformed our country into Orwell’s Oceania:

"Politicians invariably respond to crises -- that in most cases they themselves created -- by spawning new government programs, laws and regulations. These, in turn, generate more havoc and poverty, which inspires the politicians to create more programs . . . and the downward spiral repeats itself until the productive sectors of the economy collapse under the collective weight of taxes and other burdens imposed in the name of fairness, equality and do-goodism."

Orwell lived during a time of unadulterated evil, with madmen like Hitler and Stalin using the Big Lie and military brutality to keep their populations under their jackboot. Orwell saw a bleak future:

“The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

We are living in times of universal deceit. Your government is lying to you, the media is lying to you, organized religion is lying to you and corporations are lying to you. Most Americans are oblivious to the lies or simply don’t care. If you believe that bigger government will solve our troubles, borrowing more money will solve the quandary of too much debt, giving your tax dollars to the worst run banks and corporations is good policy, letting government choose the winners and losers in banking, autos, and energy is a good scheme, debasing the currency is a fine idea and allowing government agencies to monitor your conversations and emails makes you safer, then learn to Love Big Brother.

Please check out the following web sites:

http://www.dailypaul.com/

http://www.mises.org/

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/

http://www.federal-reserve.net/

Watch this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...=aWB2SfeUEYnWqQKok4GyBQ&q=zeitgeist+the+movie


 
Thank you, dashendeavors, from a devoted student of Mises and avid Rand reader.
 
Not to be a dork here, but . . .

Obama is actually the 43rd president the USA has had. Grover Cleveland served two non-consecutive terms, so he is often counted twice. But only 43 people have actually been president of the US.
 
The way presidents are traditionally counted make Grover the 22nd and 24th U.S. president.

http://teach.fcps.net/trt17/presidents%20webpage/steven_grover_clevland.htm

"Steven Grover Cleveland was the #22 and #24th president and was the only president elected into office twice."

http://www.history4u.com/category/presidents-1789-1899/grover-clevland-second-term

"Cleveland is, so far, the only President whose two terms have not come together; he is the twenty–fourth, as well as the twenty–second, President of the United States."

And, by the way, he was also the only US President named Steven.

Obviously, being re-elected to a second (consecutive) term doesn't get one counted twice.

It should also be noted that not all of the "44 presidents" were even elected.

One man served as vice-president and president, but he was not elected to either office.

Those of us over 40 should remember him well, though few I've asked can name him.
 
jedard said:
Bull shit!
Man, where are you? does anyone really believe that one man will change the world?

SEE JEDARD, YOU'RE WRONG HERE. ONE MAN DID CHANGE THE WORLD. IN A WORLD OF 6.5 BILLION PEOPLE ONE MAN'S ARROGANT AND UNACCEPTABLE ACTIONS MOTIVATED PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD TO PUT THEIR COMFORT AND SAFETY ASIDE AND TAKE IT TO THE STREETS. PEOPLE WERE HURT, PEOPLE WERE KILLED, PEOPLE SPEWED THEIR HATE, PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED - ALL THIS OVER ONE MAN, A MAN CALLED BUSH. HE TURNED THE WORLD'S POPULATIONS AGAINST WORLD LOVING AMERICAN CITIZENS. HE MADE AMERICANS HATE OTHERS - THE FRENCH FOR EXAMPLE - FOR SILLY, SUPERFICIAL NON REASONS. AMERICA LOST IT'S WORLD WIDE RESPECT BUT HE DIDN'T CARE - BEING KING MACHO MAN WITH VERY FEW REFINEMENTS AND THE POOREST OF MANNERS WAS MORE IMPORTANT. TONIGHT AT A BIG TEXAS BAR-B-QUE "W' SAID THERE'S NOTHING AS BEAUTIFUL AS A TEXAS SUNSET - YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT COWBOY, YOU STAY IN YOUR WONDERFUL LONE STAR STATE AND LEAVE THE REST OF MY COUNTRY ALONE - YOU'RE JUST A TYPICAL CITIZEN NOW, NO MORE POWER !!!

Now that said, if I am wrong I will come to BA and kiss anyones ass in front of the pink house

I'LL PASS BUT MAYBE SOMEONE READING THIS......

I have no faith in the King, and the King is the almighty dollar.

NOTHING NEW HERE......

By the way there was never 44 presidents in the USA

My responses are above in all cap letters. I went on there lightly with my feelings - Dudester
 
Forgive me if my beatific reverie is more akin to a bout of narcolepsy.
 
i went today and it was pretty great.
i am not terribly political, i have my opinions but think the political game is dirty and biased.

that said, experiencing the first black man to be elected president along with 2 million others was a once in a lifetime experience and i was in the middle of it.
 
I just saw on MSNBC (Morning Joe) that while the entire country (AND WORLD) had Obama on Page One/Top Half of their Newspapers the comical Atlanta Journal has GWB on Page One/Top Half.... some just can't let it go, how childish and pathetic.... it's over, 8 years of reckless incompetent stupidity is over FOREVER - sorry to the kids that will miss it all....... Repairs begin today, completion date? 2012/13 - Frat Boy partied HARD and had big/deep pockets !!!!
 
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