La Campora To Look After Us All

There's plenty to criticize about the Kámpora Kiddies, but they are far from Hitler Youth. There is no racist component, especially anti-Semitism, but they are convinced of their rectitude and intolerant of their opponents. They need to be exposed for what they are, which is a cheap class-based populism.

replace racism with classism and the differences are not so extreme anymore. Any youth organization that places collective blame on any group, be it based on ethnicity or social class, is not off to a good start.
 
replace racism with classism and the differences are not so extreme anymore. Any youth organization that places collective blame on any group, be it based on ethnicity or social class, is not off to a good start.

I may question Cámpora's sincerity, but I doubt they're going to disappear people off the streets. Admittedly that's a pretty low bar to clear, though.
 
I may question Cámpora's sincerity, but I doubt they're going to disappear people off the streets. Admittedly that's a pretty low bar to clear, though.

Today, I agree with you. However, you'd be surprised how quickly these types of movements can become radicalized and once that happens, how vicious they can be. Le't just hope that Argentina never goes down that path.
 
James Neilsen seems to think these kids can barely read and will wander around beating up shop keepers ! Another example of "one side is as bad as the other journalism"

Oh for a bit of balance in the news coverage! The BA Herald loves this 'no one understands anything line' I hate the idea of it, but i don't think we're talking about much more than a bunch of students with clipboards.

By ordering gangs of semiliterate and in many cases unemployable youngsters to police prices in supermarkets and neighbourhood grocery stores, Cristina, like Diocletian in his day, is asking for trouble. As precious few of them will have the slightest idea of how the economy works, misunderstandings are bound to arise and, with them, some violent conflicts as irate retailers defend themselves as best they can against unwelcome intruders.
 
James Neilsen seems to think these kids can barely read and will wander around beating up shop keepers ! Another example of "one side is as bad as the other journalism"

Oh for a bit of balance in the news coverage! The BA Herald loves this 'no one understands anything line' I hate the idea of it, but i don't think we're talking about much more than a bunch of students with clipboards.

By ordering gangs of semiliterate and in many cases unemployable youngsters to police prices in supermarkets and neighbourhood grocery stores, Cristina, like Diocletian in his day, is asking for trouble. As precious few of them will have the slightest idea of how the economy works, misunderstandings are bound to arise and, with them, some violent conflicts as irate retailers defend themselves as best they can against unwelcome intruders.

I can certainly envision fights breaking out. I think the biggest concern here is the lack of institutionality, an extra-governmental response to perceived injustices or lack of compliance. We all know that Argentine institutions are weak, but nobody knows how to remedy that.
 
Defending themselves against unwelcome intruders? ...semi illiterate?...unemployable youngsters?

Come on, it's a bit much isn't it?

Anyway, I am saying no more about the Herald other than there is no more point reading it than there is receiving La Campora´s emails.

In fact, I'm done with politics on this forum, life's too short.
 
I doubt the effect they will have if any.

What does worry me is if they become autonomous. Knowing how difficult it is to reason with a camporista about the government's economic policies, imagine trying reason with a bunch of them trying to close down or intimidate your store.
 
I strongly believe than no one, not even the more fanatic dumb dogmatic kirchnerista, can sincerely support the economic measures they have been taking from a couple of years to today.
Of course these measures every one for separate, has a purpose, has a meaning (for example, context, capitals outflow, etc) but the way they manage the whole situation, arrogantly, thinking they re the kings and can do whatever they want with their 'kingdom', pushing certain civil liberties, limiting manouvre margins of big important political and economical actors, like parties or big enterprizes, while they steal and support that stealing, while they control population absurdly, plus the content of the measures itselves, I mean, who can support the price controls, who can ever think that that measure is something that take us somewhere and not a desesperate attempt to stop the inevitable, all this, is an evidence that this deepening of the model is the main cause of the less support they have, and that they re getting more and more isolated.

As I said many times before, there are strong signs of decadence of Kirchnerismo. It seems they didnt think investment is important, and now they re totally realising how wrong they were, that every economy has a strong dependency on capitals, and even in a socialist paradise, probably the origin or the goal these young people had in mind in the 70s (which I would say it sounds good to my ears but clearly is not realistic), the inicial investment is totally necessary.

After the Cordobazo in 1969, investment (particularly external investment) went down like by an 80%. It was tremendous. I wish I can find a link that show this expressly, but its futile to search it cause i wont find it. So believe me. It was a dictatorship, the big international capitals had -apparently- the country under control. But a protest originally by students grew up and then a lot of industrial workmen joined and they took control of the second city of the country, for more than 24 hours. Then a lot of troops were send from Buenos Aires, and the repression and violence, as usual in these cases, etc. But a protest, also with a strong cultural aspect (like the mini skirt slogan), could beat the police and governed the second city and more industrial zone of the country for a day.

That was the begining of the end of that dictatorship. The year after the Cordobazo, the private investment went dramatically down and those capitals who went out of the country would come back lagter with Videla, a much more stronger dictatorship that would not allow a Cordobazo by any chance.

I dont know how I got here. Probably because Kirchnerismo is a direct son of Cordobazo, of its aspirations, of its slogans, its dreams, its proclamations, etc. That was the farthest the socialist idea came in this country, and after that event emerged the Izquierda Peronista, with its particular aspects, different guerrilas, etc.
 
it's politically dumb what they are doing. The opportunities it opens up for abuse are many.

One silly example - right wing groups smash a few supermarket windows in at night, perhaps lob in a few molotov cocktails for good measure, daub on the walls outside "La Campora was here, next time we see high prices, we smash in heads, not windows". Now you see where I'm going with this?

It's insanity to actually stand up and admit you are going to use unelected "thugs" to do the economic policing work for which there should already be perfectly competent authorities already. It opens up a big can of worms.

Oh, and why is any of this necessary if there isn't inflation? :lol:
 
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