Those saying Messi dives don't watch him regularly. He is known in Spain for standing up after being brought down eventhough the referee has already decided it was a foul. And by the amount of kicking he gets, he stays remarkably often on his feet. Compare this to Ronaldo, Rooney, and other divers of the lot.
Maradona or messi
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It's like comparing Beethoven, Mozart, Vivaldi and such.
Humanly, Messi represents far better the sports value than DM (ok, that was an easy one).
Furthermore, it's tricky to compare two very different periods, just if you consider the finance aspect and also the evolution that led into a société du spectacle in football.
Meanwhile, one is "God" while the other is the -friendly jumpy- "flea" = who wins ?
So, indeed, they represent two different styles but the irony in the perception of this comparison is that Maradona may much more look like an human -and less of a Dios- because of his defects, excesses, scandals while -the- Messi (another oddity in the comparison ;-p) looks way beyond human because of his normality !
Messi is almost divine -un Dios bis !- by his normality : he doesn't crash his Ferraris while coming out at 5am from a night club, he lives a discreete life, when interviewed he looks like a shy kid, not a noise, not a scandal ! It's like if he's living on another planet already.
Also, Maradona holds a very strong symbolical charge : his incredible dribble among three or four opponents -?-+ his magnificent headshot -helped by God's hand ;-p- against the same and symbolical opponent.
And to conclude, look at the YT videos showing the best of Maradona & the best of Zidane (considering Maradona is 5"5 and Zidane is 6"2 = center of gravity...). Is "ZZ" worst than Maradona ? They are on the same level : without them = no World Cup, no European Cup (ZZ side, Napoli period for DM = incredible), no 2006 Final (ZZ came back following a "dream").
Impossible to compare, just enjoy!
Humanly, Messi represents far better the sports value than DM (ok, that was an easy one).
Furthermore, it's tricky to compare two very different periods, just if you consider the finance aspect and also the evolution that led into a société du spectacle in football.
Meanwhile, one is "God" while the other is the -friendly jumpy- "flea" = who wins ?
So, indeed, they represent two different styles but the irony in the perception of this comparison is that Maradona may much more look like an human -and less of a Dios- because of his defects, excesses, scandals while -the- Messi (another oddity in the comparison ;-p) looks way beyond human because of his normality !
Messi is almost divine -un Dios bis !- by his normality : he doesn't crash his Ferraris while coming out at 5am from a night club, he lives a discreete life, when interviewed he looks like a shy kid, not a noise, not a scandal ! It's like if he's living on another planet already.
Also, Maradona holds a very strong symbolical charge : his incredible dribble among three or four opponents -?-+ his magnificent headshot -helped by God's hand ;-p- against the same and symbolical opponent.
And to conclude, look at the YT videos showing the best of Maradona & the best of Zidane (considering Maradona is 5"5 and Zidane is 6"2 = center of gravity...). Is "ZZ" worst than Maradona ? They are on the same level : without them = no World Cup, no European Cup (ZZ side, Napoli period for DM = incredible), no 2006 Final (ZZ came back following a "dream").
Impossible to compare, just enjoy!
Pelé = El Rey = La Perla Negra = http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelé#cite_note-0El Rey del Fútbol. Count the # goals, the world cup wins, the beauty of his goals. He's the best athlete that ever existed. Maradona is a good second but like argentina, he will always be second..third or fourth. Too disfuctional. To bad Messi is from here and not from another country. Must be hard.
No idea whether Pelé was better than Maradona or the other way around, as I didn't get to see much of Pelé's play. But anyone bringing up the number of goals scored by Pelé, well, has no idea about the teams Pelé scord those goals against. MOST of his goals were scored against regional teams, unkown to even his most hardcore fans. Ah! and the goals scored against his uncle in the garden count too 
