Overstaying - Entry to Argentina nearly denied

[laud]

Hi there,

I've been living in Argentina since October 2023 on a tourist visa (also spent 6 months in 2022). I normally go in and out of the country every 90 days, it always worked and everyone, including Migraciones, told me that was fine.
Yesterday for the first time Migraciones nearly didn't let me in at the Chilean border, said that I can't keep doing it and in the end, when they let me in, it was for 30 days instead of 90, with instructions to get things in order.
I was originally planning to stay for longer, and now am not sure what to do. I could try exiting again and entering through Uruguay to get another 90 days, but I'm afraid they've created a 'file' and that they won't let me re-enter the country. I understand that overstaying wouldn't technically be illegal as long as I pay the fine, but since they've already flagged it at the border I'm afraid I would get into trouble, or unable to come back into Argentina in the future.
Any advice? Anyone who nearly got refused entry before?

 

[jbeas176]

you need baja zero. if it was me i would pay what fees you owe and leave with in the thirty days. don’t play with immigration.

 

[jbeas176]

legal help is expensive

 

[steveinbsas]

legal help is expensive

Yes it is.

Fortunately, the member of the forum known as Bajo_cero2 often provides useful answers here in response to questions regarding the 90 day prorroga issued at the office of migraciones, visa runs, and overstaying the 90 day tourist permit. Perhaps he will also comment here regarding how overstaying a 30 day prorroga issued at the border might affect reentry in the future.

 

[MarshallE]

Visa runs don't make any sense. The overstay fine is only 40k pesos. You'd pay much more to fly elsewhere and come back, and then risk denials at the border. You're much better off just overstaying however long you want to be in Argentina

 

[saucerfam]

Avoid mamuil malal crossing at all cost....disgruntled folks, super resentidos. Had luck in Bariloche extending with no issues. Or just pay the fine and no stress.

 

[zensailor]

You have to admit that with your electronic record of gaming the system, Argentine immigration was much kinder to you than US Immigration would have been under similar circumstances ...if you want to enjoy a country, respect their culture and their laws ... compared to most, the Argentine system is very welcoming ... I don't understand the reluctance to do things the right way ... a path exists to accommodate most requests... and it requires a ''sherpa'' i.e., a lawyer ... if you are so ''special''...or too cheap ... and don't feel a need to do anything except what you want to do ... then good luck finding a country that recognizes your supreme status ...

 

[steveinbsas]

Post #6 in this thread might ne useful if and when you return, regardless of prior visa runs and/or overstays or how long it has been since you left Argentina.

Tourist visa extension denied

I entered Argentina in early January and my plan was to leave at the end of June (less than 180days in total) with one visa extension. I also went on a trip to Uruguay for a week in February and then came back. So my tourist visa got renewed and is still valid until next week. I went to the...

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[NiKo2b]

I don't understand the reluctance to do things the right way ... a path exists to accommodate most requests... and it requires a ''sherpa'' i.e., a lawyer

Can you share what you're thinking about?

 

[Frank2000]

90 day visa runs seem to raise more eyebrows than overstays. Before I got residency, I have overstayed several times. Always got a little bit of "please do something about your situations" when I entered via Rosario, but never via EZE. In Buenos Aires the customs agents usually say something like "oh you like coming to Argentina a lot, don't you". After I say yes, they say welcome to Argentina and let me through.

I never had any problem even after getting the "you better do something" advise. But for now, I wouldn't comeback from anywhere but EZE if I were you. They seem to be more used to "tourists" overstaying.

As to the 30 day visa, I would probably not overstay that one.