Damn - still no joy - but my partner says she has one of the local ferreteria guys who is going to call her as soon as he can get some in... Seriously - this stuff is magic. I have one custom Peter Johnson (the swedish smith) sword that is worth BIG bucks - but the scabbard that was made for it they used the wrong sort of glue on the wooden lining and over time I started to get edge rust - not only did this stuff KILL that rust and neutralize it (so I didn't have to throw the scabbard out) it also prevents any further rusting from occurring... If you are a sword nut, gun nut, knife nut or just a gadgets and tools sort of guy - its really that good.. Overseas I used to get something similar that was German from memory - very very good indeed - but I can't even remember the name of it now...