Presidential debate Massa vs Millei 9PM. Last one before election.

[D.B. Cooper]

Tomorrow at 9PM is the last presidential debate. Should be interesting. I think most people know who they’re going to vote for.

 

[perry]

The debates have been lacklustre and it seemed that the main canditates except for Milei were very flat in their presentations . Bullrich for example was a huge disappointment in the debates but after she lost was surprisingly passionate for Milei . For me Milei is more eloquent and forecful in his message giving him a upper hand

 

[Rich One]

The contents of the speeches during the debate mean piddly shit, some people don't even understand the issues. The audience reacts to body language, voice, charisma, image, and assertiveness.

Milei, this time won't be able to read statements as before, so will be at a disadvantage. His weakest point is the association with Macri and la casta, Milei will have to defend the feasibility of his unrealistic dollarization plan. Milei may lose control and seem unfit for the job. There may be no clear winner.

 

[MilHojas]

Starts at 9PM

 

[Rich One]

Massa won hands down.
Massa started aggressively assuming the role of interviewer and stunned Milei with a yes/no routine of questions. From that point on Massa was in control on a fast rhythm. Milei was reduced to answering questions...! Sad spectacle . I thought Milei was going to quit.

After the intermission break Massa was advised by his trainers to stop beating on a fallen adversary, because the public may resent the abuse.
Will this change the voters intention ?

 

[A1buenos]

Not really a debate, more a shouting match at times. Massa was using childlike tactics to repeatedly cough into his microphone when Milei was speaking, aiming to his disturb him. Massa came across as insincere, and devoid of any valid plans for the country.

Overall most disappointing entertainment, as inspiring for the future leadership of Argentina as watching paint dry!

 

[antipodean]

Massa won hands down.
Massa started aggressively assuming the role of interviewer and stunned Milei with a yes/no routine of questions. From that point on Massa was in control on a fast rhythm. Milei was reduced to answering questions...! Sad spectacle . I thought Milei was going to quit.

After the intermission break Massa was advised by his trainers to stop beating on a fallen adversary, because the public may resent the abuse.
Will this change the voters intention ?

For the vast majority of voters it won't change their intentions.
According to the TN poll (which had a few million participants) 85% still said Milei "won" this debate despite his objectively terrible performance versus Massa on screen. For the majority of voters politics is like footbal, pick a team and stick with them even if when it is clear they are loosing a match.

What I thought was an interesting tactic of Massa is that in previous debates he had been much more "read from the script" and "passive" in his participation, this time he surprised Milei and threw him off-balance by opening on the attack. More cringe-worthy tactics included little coughs while Milei was speaking and personal jibes to send him off on a tangent and use up his talking-time also clearly show a career politician who knows how to fight dirty. It was also crystal clear Massa was using fear-tactics trying to repeat and generate disinformation and lies such as Milei not offering public education or healthcare and more stupid things such as Milei being somehow "apatriotic" for his admiration of Margaret Thatcher who Massa labled as an "enemy" of Argentina to this day (and who went to war against a dictatorship - the perversity of ultra-nationalism as a political tool of manipulation at its finest, as ridiculous as if Merkel had called Churchill or Roosevelt an enemy of the German people for fighting against Hitler's German state...).

 

[lunar]

According to the TN poll (which had a few million participants) 85% still said Milei "won" this debate despite ...

This is not a random poll. It's possible that Milei supporters visited the TN webpage and voted for him as a way to show their support after his defeat.

 

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

Surprised to see Margaret Thatcher make it into the debate.
Massa shouldn’t worry she’s also considered an enemy by large parts of the UK too.

 

[Rich One]

Massa won hands down.
Massa started aggressively assuming the role of interviewer and stunned Milei with a yes/no routine of questions. From that point on Massa was in control on a fast rhythm. Milei was reduced to answering questions...! Sad spectacle . I thought Milei was going to quit.

After the intermission break Massa was advised by his trainers to stop beating on a fallen adversary, because the public may resent the abuse.
Will this change the voters intention ?

Milei Por Si o Por No...! was dead in the water and forgot the motosierra and the Viva la Libertad Carajo..!